Skull Session: Brian Hartline Will Shine at OC, There Will Be New Blood in Jim Knowles' Safety-Driven Defense and Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson Are Who We Thought They Were
I don't honestly believe that transitioning to Hartline as the play caller is going to magically unlock some cheat code and all of a sudden all the ills that have haunted the Buckeyes are going to go away and they're going to steam roll their way to a national championship next year... However, I do think that, along with major work on defense will be a step in the right direction.
I think it's most likely that this year Hartline calls the plays with oversight from Day as I'm sure coach Day will need to build up his trust in Hartline in that capacity since he's never done it before... But hey, guess what, prior to coming to Ohio State Hartline had never been a WR coach.. and he's pretty much re-written the book on that job....
The Excellence of Execution, the Best there is, the Best there was, the Best there ever will be!
Hartline may be the best WR position coach ever from the standpoint of recruiting and developing. That does not mean he's going to be a great OC. I certainly hope so. He's got one of the best offensive minds mentoring him and hopefully has been developing him the last couple of years. Had to see the writing on the wall for this exact moment. We are going to find out real soon how he can incorporate a new QB into the offense. He certainly has the weapons except maybe the O-line. The real upside on the promotion is his recruiting excellence spreads across the entire offensive unit.
Texan... I agree 100%. And maybe add to that, I think Hartline might well have left for an OC or even HC job somewhere else if he didn't get this promotion. A win win for BH and the Buckeyes!!
I’m so glad y’all said this. There are plenty of reasons to question Hartline’s ability to be a great OC. The most obvious being he’s never done it. I guess that makes people who ask questions “trolls”. A couple days ago 11W started a thread about Ohio State football fans being negative and confrontational. Today the Ohio State fan website trolls its own patrons. I think the author is smart enough to know what he’s doing.
Even with 3 safety spots they still have more young exciting options than spots. Imagine if there was only 2 spots. Linebacker is in good hands now with eich/chambers so I could see Knowles finding more rotation in those spots atleast early on to keep them fresh later, plus we have some young talent itching to get out there in hicks,etc. hartline will be fine in his new role but I expect to see a much bigger impact on defense in year 2.
The D would be really good if we can get two college level CBs somewhere. All other areas of the D are solid. Are any of our strong safety players versatile enough to play CB and will we get someone with the skills to develop them. The last 3 years have really shown our inability to develop a college level CB.
I would like to see Sawyer make a jump next year as well.
someone mentioned this on another thread, but I'd also like to see Sawyer back at his DE position and maybe try someone else out at the 'Jack' position...CJ Hicks, maybe?
I can’t say I understand the distinctions in duties bw the Jack and a DE, but with that said, that sounds like a good idea due to the limited opportunities there will be for our younger lbs.
I agree with this take, Vball. Jack Sawyer needs to be on the field more than he was in 2022. I think you have a younger player in their second year – Caden Curry, C.J. Hicks, somebody like that – at the position to mix them into the lineup without having to take JT Tuimoloau or Sawyer off the field.
By the way, Mitch Melton was a lock to start at the Jack last season before he suffered the knee injury a year ago. Maybe he will come back and is a natural fit for the position since he would finally be healthy.
I agree. The cowboys use Micah parsons in a Jack role and he’s excelling. Hicks has that potential if used right I think. Sawyer is bigger and more limited but he’s definitely a nice fit at D end.
It’s not just internet trolls who question the move of Hartline to OC. he is a good recruiter and coaches the position he played in college and the NFL. That is a much different skill than coordinating the offense and possibly calling plays. And my point or concern is not that Hartline cannot be good in that role, it’s that OSU should not be hiring guys with no experience in such positions to cut their teeth.
And further, to Klatt’s point, yes, Day needs to hand off the offense and play calling to the OC. If he did not do that with Kevin Wilson, who has decades of experience as both an OC and head coach, you think he will hand it over to Hartline, who has only been a football coach for 3 years, all of which were spent coaching WRs? I think this move prevents Day from letting go of the offense and playcalling and further exacerbates the issues that causes. To put it simply, Day will have to be more involved now, not less.
Good, upcoming coaches come and go. It’s what it is. Like with Coombs to DC, I have concerns. I am not saying I think Hartline will not succeed in this role, but why take the chance, and why take the chance at a time when Day needs someone he can hand things off to. We needed a head coach of the offense, not a new guy with no experience. Even if he has all the potential in the world.
Not that I simply dismiss your worries but there is a counterpoint. Saban is about to hire a new DC. Everyone at sec network says that he’ll hire a young guy with potential or a former assistant coach that’s been under him before, because any DC will just be running sabans defense and calling sabans plays. Saban gets the credit when they win and the DC gets the blame when they lose. He still keeps control regardless. His OC hires are experienced former OC’s or HC’s that will do their own thing with less control from saban because they only want that job if they get most of the control. I say all of this to point out that day couldn’t control Wilson if he gave him the keys to the offense because he had experience being in charge so he kept him at arms length. Day can let hartline put his stamp on the offense while still knowing at any time he can simply take more control if necessary. Day is doing it the saban way but it’s from an offensive perspective rather than a defensive one.
By that line of reasoning Day never would have got the head gig in the first place. So you are suggesting we take the best recruiter and WR coach in the country, and send him away to calls plays at a MAC school for a few years before he would be worthy of calling plays here? The right person for the job is the right person for the job. That's why part if being a great leader includes talent evaluation. I'm pretty sure Day and others aren't just handing him the keys for no reason. He is the best at everything he has done thus far, why would he not excel at this as well?
Did you want Hartline to stay or not? He wanted the OC job. Given his level of success to date, if a coach wants it, you reward him. I would much rather have Hartline on the team versus some other school.
Last night was it for me. It was coming, but last night shattered me. Holtmann needs consequences for what he is doing with this team. I have been a big Holtmann supporter. He is a great guy to mentor kids, has done very well recruiting, and fits what we want as a head coach. But a couple weeks ago this was one of the highest scoring teams in the country. For the past few games, we are watching an offense that consists of one guy dribbling the ball, 4 guys standing and looking at him watching him dribble the ball, and then throw up an off balance shot late in the shot clock by trying to win 1 on 1. Last night was just more of the same, stagnant plays followed by low effort. Once you see low effort pop up while on a 5 game losing streak, it's time for Gene to step in and ask what the hell is going on.
According to Pete Thamel of ESPN, (Co-OC Matt) Weiss is the subject of a legal investigation that deals with “computer access crimes” that occurred at the team’s football facility.
Is there anyone in this line of work that would know what are 'computer access crimes'?
There are a list of things that can qualify as "computer access crimes", and none of them are good.
Among them:
Unauthorized access to secure computer systems
Engaging in wire-fraudulent activity
Engaging in harassment/stalking in a way that is on-going, and persistent
Utilizing and/or engaging in sexually deviant material and/or production of various extra-pornographic activities that are illegal (this needs not be explained any further)
Other related activities that intentionally or negligently harm others.
In short? Stuff you should not be going, but are being done anyway.
if Day didn't have confidence in Hartline he would never have given him the job same with Knowles ...but if you don't do your job... well ask Kerry and the rest of the defensive staff of last year what happens...
You seriously referring to Knowels as the 'Mad scientist'?????? More like 'all I know to do is call over aggressive cover 0/1 no matter what the score janitor'
Proverbs 14:15
The simple believe anything, but the prudent give thought to their steps.
Those crazy pressure defenses are great against teams that have average or below offenses, ask Mark Dantonio how they do against great teams when the weather is not bad. Against the better offenses, Knowles made the D even worse (witness MD, UM and GA for proof). They were better overall because the guys Kerry was coaching (and recruited) got more experience. Kerry was learning on the job, that worked against him. Sadly, it is the same thing Knowles is doing, because he never faced competition like UM and GA during his one good defensive year at OkSU. In case you didn't know, all his other defensive years at OkSU were actually worse than last years OSU defense. He had one, one good year. let's hope Knowles picked some things up during his one year here, and his last year at OkSU not an aberration.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
In reference to Jim Knowles.... with those LB's coming back (Eich and Steele) along with the safeties who have already been in the system for a year.....WHOA.
Patience, Iago, patience
It is never right to do what is wrong.
It is never wrong to do what is right.
It is always right to do what is right.
In Jim Knowles' safety-driven defense, Ohio State needs athletes who can make plays from sideline to sideline. They have that with Styles and Stokes. Both are athletic specimens with tremendous upside at the position, and I can't wait to see how the Mad Scientist plans to utilize their strengths in Year 2 of his master plan for the Silver Bullets.
Knowles is still the DC right? How about a little less mad scientist and a little more solid, fundamental football. Need to be WAY better against elite teams and elite coaches.
If coach Hart has the same passion and puts in the same effort he did at wr coach, I'm confident he will succeed as a OC. I also think the roll allows him to expand his reach in recruiting beyond the wr room.
I think Hartline will be great at off coord coach. While the best WR coach in the nation, I have a feeling that Hartline will turn heads with a bit more emphasis on the run game.... Just a hunch.
I'm with you that Hartline will be on track to succeed as OC. After all, he's succeeded at everything else in his coaching career, so why not add calling plays to the list? I understand being a great WR coach and recruiter is different than having the keys to the offense. Still, Ryan Day will have hand-picked Hartline to call plays if he gives up that role, so I have confidence Day – being the elite play-caller he is – would know what Hartline is capable of with that kind of responsibility. Hopefully, it works out for Ohio State.
For Day to put Hart in the OC chair he has to have seen plenty to give confidence. It's not like he hasn't been deeply involved as receivers coach. Integrating a great passing game requires lots of coordination between qb and receivers, so he's been in the room and is probably well prepared for this step. I expect Day to continue to have a strong hand in game planning and play calling this year to give Hart a season to settle in, then we will see if he's "the man" going forward.
Hartline will call the plays but Day will have the final say on which play will be ran. If Day wants a certain play ran then he overrides hartline's play call.
There are so many good things about promoting Hartline with # 1 being keeping him at OSU. He will grow and learn from an outstanding offensive mind. I see him being HC at OSU someday.
Couldn't agree more. Hutchinson is a good athlete and a "high motor" guy. He's also a media darling, a scUM man and he gets a bunch of media hype. I would be disappointed to see him get this honor but I wouldn't be surprised. His stats don't come close to Olave and Wilson, who toiled for average teams and played at higher levels. One of them certainly deserves it!
No worries about Brain Hartline calling plays from here. Some of y'all are acting as if Hartline will be the OC on an island or something. He'll be collaborating with Day, Frye and Alford on the game plan, et all. He'll have his laminated play sheet, and they all will still have their headsets where they talk during the game. It's not like BH just walked in off the street, just like the players, as a coach BH has been developed at Ohio State. We'll be better then fine y'all, book it.
As to the BasketBucks, five single digit losses in a row stinks, and it does appear from the outside that Holtman has lost the team and Sueing seems to a problem and needs some bench time to get his head right or keep him sitting. Lunardi with brackets in January is laughable, but anything for clicks, I guess.
Go Bucks!
Without winners there wouldn't be any gosh darn civilization. We make no apologies for winning or for aiming our entire program toward that goal. - Woody Hayes
Getting Sheldon back for the February run and the tourny will give them all the ammo they need to take on S. Carolina. No ceiling for these ladies. I said on another thread I'm seeing a lot of difference in the confidence and inspired play from the ladies and men's basketball right now.
I am still high on Kourt Williams, if he can overcome his injury situation. He was kind of the forgotten man on the team this year in my opinion. He had a breakout game in the Rose Bowl similar to Tommy Eichenberg , but did not get the chance to parlay it into a great 2022 season.
I also am a big fan of Kourt Williams. I hope he can be a player that frequently rotates into the back end of the defense in 2023, as he is good in coverage and one of the best tacklers on the team, in my view.
Hartline succeeding as OC isn't a guarantee. Calling plays is just a different skillset.
But the guy has infinite value to the program. We need him to stay around. And he'll be learning under the tutelage of one of the best to ever do it. Plus, it's a lot easier to be an OC when you have 3 of the top 5 WRs every year -- as Hartline routinely does.
I for one am not a Ransom fan. If he is so good back there, why did the defense give up all those points and yards against MAryland, Michigan and Georgia? I think we have more talented and bigger guys that can play back there.
Are you looking at about two or three times where he slipped and fell and caused scores or the whole body of work? I ask because before I looked at his whole body of work I had a similar opinion. Is he the best OSU has had back there? Nope. Is he good? Yup, but he has this caveat that his broken now healed leg seems to cause some balance or footwork issues.
I do think the leg caused some balance and footwork issues as you mentioned. Give another 9 months to heal and work on it and he should be even better next season.
Hartline is the guy that everyone wants to hang with. He's the guy that everyone wants to be coached by. He's already a legend and a fantastically good father, husband, and man. We're blessed to have him.
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The good news. We are not a Basketball school. Holtmann has lost the room.
Even when he had the room, his ceiling was 1st weekend of NCAAs.
Last night we were in double bonus close to halfway in 2H. Did we adjust to take advantage of that…..Nope!
Watching Holtmann’s classic sitting back in his chair with his hands behind his head as this team plays lost is a common look.
A? B? or Both?
Just play. Have fun. Enjoy the game. -- Michael Jordan
I don't honestly believe that transitioning to Hartline as the play caller is going to magically unlock some cheat code and all of a sudden all the ills that have haunted the Buckeyes are going to go away and they're going to steam roll their way to a national championship next year... However, I do think that, along with major work on defense will be a step in the right direction.
I think it's most likely that this year Hartline calls the plays with oversight from Day as I'm sure coach Day will need to build up his trust in Hartline in that capacity since he's never done it before... But hey, guess what, prior to coming to Ohio State Hartline had never been a WR coach.. and he's pretty much re-written the book on that job....
The Excellence of Execution, the Best there is, the Best there was, the Best there ever will be!
Hartline may be the best WR position coach ever from the standpoint of recruiting and developing. That does not mean he's going to be a great OC. I certainly hope so. He's got one of the best offensive minds mentoring him and hopefully has been developing him the last couple of years. Had to see the writing on the wall for this exact moment. We are going to find out real soon how he can incorporate a new QB into the offense. He certainly has the weapons except maybe the O-line. The real upside on the promotion is his recruiting excellence spreads across the entire offensive unit.
Texan... I agree 100%. And maybe add to that, I think Hartline might well have left for an OC or even HC job somewhere else if he didn't get this promotion. A win win for BH and the Buckeyes!!
TampaBayBone Doc
I agree that it wasn't worth the risk of passing him over. If you're no moving forward you're going backwards.
I’m so glad y’all said this. There are plenty of reasons to question Hartline’s ability to be a great OC. The most obvious being he’s never done it. I guess that makes people who ask questions “trolls”. A couple days ago 11W started a thread about Ohio State football fans being negative and confrontational. Today the Ohio State fan website trolls its own patrons. I think the author is smart enough to know what he’s doing.
Your best song of the day choice yet Chase. Love me some Joe.
m GO BLOW!!!
Wasn't Tressell calling the offensive plays in 2002?
Yes, it sure as heck wasn't Bollman.
Even with 3 safety spots they still have more young exciting options than spots. Imagine if there was only 2 spots. Linebacker is in good hands now with eich/chambers so I could see Knowles finding more rotation in those spots atleast early on to keep them fresh later, plus we have some young talent itching to get out there in hicks,etc. hartline will be fine in his new role but I expect to see a much bigger impact on defense in year 2.
Best LBs in the B10!
Guess you didn't see the last three games?
Hector m Rivera
The linebackers were really good in the last 3 games.... It was the safety position that wasn't doing well.
"going to hang 100 on them." -Ryan Day
lol--obviously you didn't
Faster, tougher, and more violent...
The D would be really good if we can get two college level CBs somewhere. All other areas of the D are solid. Are any of our strong safety players versatile enough to play CB and will we get someone with the skills to develop them. The last 3 years have really shown our inability to develop a college level CB.
Karl sherrick
vacuuming sucks
Sonny Styles will be the Marvin Harrison Jr of the defense in 2023.
"Put ya' weight on it"
I would like to see Sawyer make a jump next year as well. With Harrison gone it's time.
someone mentioned this on another thread, but I'd also like to see Sawyer back at his DE position and maybe try someone else out at the 'Jack' position...CJ Hicks, maybe?
Faster, tougher, and more violent...
I can’t say I understand the distinctions in duties bw the Jack and a DE, but with that said, that sounds like a good idea due to the limited opportunities there will be for our younger lbs.
Hicks is a good fit but I was thinking Styles at 6'4 222.
Styles will be a safety... Hicks would be better since it's only moving him to a hybrid DE/LB vs moving a safety down to a DE/LB
"going to hang 100 on them." -Ryan Day
I agree with this take, Vball. Jack Sawyer needs to be on the field more than he was in 2022. I think you have a younger player in their second year – Caden Curry, C.J. Hicks, somebody like that – at the position to mix them into the lineup without having to take JT Tuimoloau or Sawyer off the field.
By the way, Mitch Melton was a lock to start at the Jack last season before he suffered the knee injury a year ago. Maybe he will come back and is a natural fit for the position since he would finally be healthy.
I agree. The cowboys use Micah parsons in a Jack role and he’s excelling. Hicks has that potential if used right I think. Sawyer is bigger and more limited but he’s definitely a nice fit at D end.
It’s not just internet trolls who question the move of Hartline to OC. he is a good recruiter and coaches the position he played in college and the NFL. That is a much different skill than coordinating the offense and possibly calling plays. And my point or concern is not that Hartline cannot be good in that role, it’s that OSU should not be hiring guys with no experience in such positions to cut their teeth.
And further, to Klatt’s point, yes, Day needs to hand off the offense and play calling to the OC. If he did not do that with Kevin Wilson, who has decades of experience as both an OC and head coach, you think he will hand it over to Hartline, who has only been a football coach for 3 years, all of which were spent coaching WRs? I think this move prevents Day from letting go of the offense and playcalling and further exacerbates the issues that causes. To put it simply, Day will have to be more involved now, not less.
Good, upcoming coaches come and go. It’s what it is. Like with Coombs to DC, I have concerns. I am not saying I think Hartline will not succeed in this role, but why take the chance, and why take the chance at a time when Day needs someone he can hand things off to. We needed a head coach of the offense, not a new guy with no experience. Even if he has all the potential in the world.
Not that I simply dismiss your worries but there is a counterpoint. Saban is about to hire a new DC. Everyone at sec network says that he’ll hire a young guy with potential or a former assistant coach that’s been under him before, because any DC will just be running sabans defense and calling sabans plays. Saban gets the credit when they win and the DC gets the blame when they lose. He still keeps control regardless. His OC hires are experienced former OC’s or HC’s that will do their own thing with less control from saban because they only want that job if they get most of the control. I say all of this to point out that day couldn’t control Wilson if he gave him the keys to the offense because he had experience being in charge so he kept him at arms length. Day can let hartline put his stamp on the offense while still knowing at any time he can simply take more control if necessary. Day is doing it the saban way but it’s from an offensive perspective rather than a defensive one.
By that line of reasoning Day never would have got the head gig in the first place. So you are suggesting we take the best recruiter and WR coach in the country, and send him away to calls plays at a MAC school for a few years before he would be worthy of calling plays here? The right person for the job is the right person for the job. That's why part if being a great leader includes talent evaluation. I'm pretty sure Day and others aren't just handing him the keys for no reason. He is the best at everything he has done thus far, why would he not excel at this as well?
Difference is Hartline has already has $14M in the bank and loves tOSU.
Id like to think if I got to coach at my alma matter in any role, that that would be my destination job.
Did you want Hartline to stay or not? He wanted the OC job. Given his level of success to date, if a coach wants it, you reward him. I would much rather have Hartline on the team versus some other school.
Yes. Stay Forever!
And ever and ever and EVER
your obsession with BucksHave7 is not only creepy, but unhealthy--you really should seek professional help
Faster, tougher, and more violent...
Last night was it for me. It was coming, but last night shattered me. Holtmann needs consequences for what he is doing with this team. I have been a big Holtmann supporter. He is a great guy to mentor kids, has done very well recruiting, and fits what we want as a head coach. But a couple weeks ago this was one of the highest scoring teams in the country. For the past few games, we are watching an offense that consists of one guy dribbling the ball, 4 guys standing and looking at him watching him dribble the ball, and then throw up an off balance shot late in the shot clock by trying to win 1 on 1. Last night was just more of the same, stagnant plays followed by low effort. Once you see low effort pop up while on a 5 game losing streak, it's time for Gene to step in and ask what the hell is going on.
And now, a moment with Ohio State Men's Basketball Coach Chris Holtmann...
Is there anyone in this line of work that would know what are 'computer access crimes'?
There are a list of things that can qualify as "computer access crimes", and none of them are good.
Among them:
In short? Stuff you should not be going, but are being done anyway.
Thank You. So seems only a few felonies, nothing Ward Manuel would ever fire him for.
Come on, man. Need to turn this thing around, Coach.
My sense id there's division in the locker room. Suing hs been around too long. And, we 're wasting Sensebauch's one and done.
OH-IO Goodbye Columbus.
IMO, Justice Sueing is a detriment to this team--instead of Sensabaugh, have him come off the bench...just a thought.
Faster, tougher, and more violent...
if Day didn't have confidence in Hartline he would never have given him the job same with Knowles ...but if you don't do your job... well ask Kerry and the rest of the defensive staff of last year what happens...
You seriously referring to Knowels as the 'Mad scientist'?????? More like 'all I know to do is call over aggressive cover 0/1 no matter what the score janitor'
Proverbs 14:15
The simple believe anything, but the prudent give thought to their steps.
In 1 season, Jim Knowles took a 53rd ranked Defense to #14th. I cant wait to see this season!
Those crazy pressure defenses are great against teams that have average or below offenses, ask Mark Dantonio how they do against great teams when the weather is not bad. Against the better offenses, Knowles made the D even worse (witness MD, UM and GA for proof). They were better overall because the guys Kerry was coaching (and recruited) got more experience. Kerry was learning on the job, that worked against him. Sadly, it is the same thing Knowles is doing, because he never faced competition like UM and GA during his one good defensive year at OkSU. In case you didn't know, all his other defensive years at OkSU were actually worse than last years OSU defense. He had one, one good year. let's hope Knowles picked some things up during his one year here, and his last year at OkSU not an aberration.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Same!! Running the table and winning a natty baby!
In reference to Jim Knowles.... with those LB's coming back (Eich and Steele) along with the safeties who have already been in the system for a year.....WHOA.
Patience, Iago, patience
It is never right to do what is wrong.
It is never wrong to do what is right.
It is always right to do what is right.
Knowles is still the DC right? How about a little less mad scientist and a little more solid, fundamental football. Need to be WAY better against elite teams and elite coaches.
Go Buckeyes!!!
If coach Hart has the same passion and puts in the same effort he did at wr coach, I'm confident he will succeed as a OC. I also think the roll allows him to expand his reach in recruiting beyond the wr room.
I think Hartline will be great at off coord coach. While the best WR coach in the nation, I have a feeling that Hartline will turn heads with a bit more emphasis on the run game.... Just a hunch.
CBus love
I'm with you that Hartline will be on track to succeed as OC. After all, he's succeeded at everything else in his coaching career, so why not add calling plays to the list? I understand being a great WR coach and recruiter is different than having the keys to the offense. Still, Ryan Day will have hand-picked Hartline to call plays if he gives up that role, so I have confidence Day – being the elite play-caller he is – would know what Hartline is capable of with that kind of responsibility. Hopefully, it works out for Ohio State.
For Day to put Hart in the OC chair he has to have seen plenty to give confidence. It's not like he hasn't been deeply involved as receivers coach. Integrating a great passing game requires lots of coordination between qb and receivers, so he's been in the room and is probably well prepared for this step. I expect Day to continue to have a strong hand in game planning and play calling this year to give Hart a season to settle in, then we will see if he's "the man" going forward.
Steelybuck54
Hartline will call the plays but Day will have the final say on which play will be ran. If Day wants a certain play ran then he overrides hartline's play call.
There are so many good things about promoting Hartline with # 1 being keeping him at OSU. He will grow and learn from an outstanding offensive mind. I see him being HC at OSU someday.
Hutchinson better than Olave and Wilson this year? uh, no, espn. what those 2 did with not so great qbs, to be polite, were better.
Couldn't agree more. Hutchinson is a good athlete and a "high motor" guy. He's also a media darling, a scUM man and he gets a bunch of media hype. I would be disappointed to see him get this honor but I wouldn't be surprised. His stats don't come close to Olave and Wilson, who toiled for average teams and played at higher levels. One of them certainly deserves it!
No worries about Brain Hartline calling plays from here. Some of y'all are acting as if Hartline will be the OC on an island or something. He'll be collaborating with Day, Frye and Alford on the game plan, et all. He'll have his laminated play sheet, and they all will still have their headsets where they talk during the game. It's not like BH just walked in off the street, just like the players, as a coach BH has been developed at Ohio State. We'll be better then fine y'all, book it.
As to the BasketBucks, five single digit losses in a row stinks, and it does appear from the outside that Holtman has lost the team and Sueing seems to a problem and needs some bench time to get his head right or keep him sitting. Lunardi with brackets in January is laughable, but anything for clicks, I guess.
Go Bucks!
Without winners there wouldn't be any gosh darn civilization. We make no apologies for winning or for aiming our entire program toward that goal. - Woody Hayes
One of the top song of the day choices ever!
I'm glad you liked it! That was a suggestion from my Pops.
Your pops Is a good man!! Starting any day off with Joe or the Eagles is a win in my book.
Getting Sheldon back for the February run and the tourny will give them all the ammo they need to take on S. Carolina. No ceiling for these ladies. I said on another thread I'm seeing a lot of difference in the confidence and inspired play from the ladies and men's basketball right now.
This is the biggest difference between these two programs--they both have the talent, but they both don't have these intangibles.
Faster, tougher, and more violent...
I am still high on Kourt Williams, if he can overcome his injury situation. He was kind of the forgotten man on the team this year in my opinion. He had a breakout game in the Rose Bowl similar to Tommy Eichenberg , but did not get the chance to parlay it into a great 2022 season.
I also am a big fan of Kourt Williams. I hope he can be a player that frequently rotates into the back end of the defense in 2023, as he is good in coverage and one of the best tacklers on the team, in my view.
Hartline succeeding as OC isn't a guarantee. Calling plays is just a different skillset.
But the guy has infinite value to the program. We need him to stay around. And he'll be learning under the tutelage of one of the best to ever do it. Plus, it's a lot easier to be an OC when you have 3 of the top 5 WRs every year -- as Hartline routinely does.
I agree it's different, but I think he'll do well considering his NFL experience and time coaching under Day.
"going to hang 100 on them." -Ryan Day
I for one am not a Ransom fan. If he is so good back there, why did the defense give up all those points and yards against MAryland, Michigan and Georgia? I think we have more talented and bigger guys that can play back there.
Hector m Rivera
Are you looking at about two or three times where he slipped and fell and caused scores or the whole body of work? I ask because before I looked at his whole body of work I had a similar opinion. Is he the best OSU has had back there? Nope. Is he good? Yup, but he has this caveat that his broken now healed leg seems to cause some balance or footwork issues.
I do think the leg caused some balance and footwork issues as you mentioned. Give another 9 months to heal and work on it and he should be even better next season.
"going to hang 100 on them." -Ryan Day
Hartline is the guy that everyone wants to hang with. He's the guy that everyone wants to be coached by. He's already a legend and a fantastically good father, husband, and man. We're blessed to have him.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
All of that has exactly what to do with the requirements needed to be a good OC?
Schichata
Hey Schichata
I remember someone who used to hang around Ohio State footbal for a time said it best....
"You win with people"
Shout out to Old Town +1
It is never right to do what is wrong.
It is never wrong to do what is right.
It is always right to do what is right.
Thanks bro.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
Kye Stokes gives me some Malik Hooker vibes. I don't think I enjoyed watching a Buckeye more than Malik's last season in Columbus.
Respectfully,
Larryp713
I really enjoyed Hookers highlights up until Clemson.
Thanks for posting though.
West Palm Buckeye
Colleges for rookie of the year candidates are Ohio State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Cincinnati and UTSA. So much for SEC meaning more.
Oldschoolbuckeye77
SESLEAZE, because they just cheat more.