If Chris Holtmann is a top 15 coach then I am Tiger Woods

Bronny grew up dreaming of going 11-9 in B1G and losing in the second round of the NCAA tournament. It's a lock.

Some good discussion here, some bad discussion, but mostly good discussion lol

Holtmann isn't getting fired unless this season goes completely off the rails, and even then his buyout is so big it probably wouldn't happen until 2024....the extension Gene gave him might go down as the dumbest thing any of my sports teams have done in history (not the WORST but the dumbest)

We need to focus our energy on him leaving for another job. You're already seeing national guys float his name out there for the Notre Dame job. If Notre Dame hired him away, I already told my co-workers I will bring in donuts to celebrate. I personally would not be surprised if Holtmann was looking to get outta Columbus. The dude isn't exactly great at handling criticism and hooo boy it's been brutal out there on social media the last 2 days. The Jeff Goodmann tweet "bE caReFul WhaT yOu WiSh For" was an absolute farce lol

Looking back, McDermott does have the 1 Sweet 16 but he's been pretty underwhelming too.

Everything that's happened for Ohio State since the 2021 NCAA Tournament Bracket Reveal Show has been a shit show

Thad's boys got upset by an 11-seed in 2014, won the 7-10 game in 2015 before losing to a 2 seed, then missed the tournament and went to the NIT in 2016. Holtmann's boys got upset by a 15-seed in 2021, won the 7-10 game in 2022 before losing to a 2 seed, and are on track to go to the NIT in 2023. In those 3 year time frames, there was zero conference titles, zero conference tournament titles, and zero sweet 16's for either of them.

After last night's latest debacle, Holtmann is 45-42 in conference play since Thad's core (KBD, Tate, Killa Kam) left. He's got us in 13th place right now with arguably his most talented roster in a year where the B1G is definitely down.

Tell me again how things are better exactly? It's like we are in a recurring nightmare. Except the way this season is going, it's entirely possible that these guys miss both tourneys. 

I think we are all starting to realize that Holtmann just isn’t it but I’m also now thinking this roster just isn’t nearly as good as we thought it was. These guys can’t even make a god damn layup.

The “why” doesn’t really matter to me anymore, it’s year 6 and the entirety of this program right now is flat out embarrassing. I don’t care if it’s really the players who suck not the coaches because who recruited these guys? Exactly. 

I feel bad for the 17 people who bought tickets to the Iowa game this Saturday. I feel bad for all of us who follow this program

We just didn’t play with enough force

Don’t even get on the plane, Holtmann. Stay the hell in Lincoln.

Pinnacle Bank Arena should be rocking, even with the winter storm warning out there.

When you can't beat Minnesota at home...there's no such thing as an easy game 

If Ohio State has a 2-3 point lead at halftime or they're losing at halftime, SMASH that Nebraska moneyline.

I don't think this win will be a "get right" win with games against Iowa, at Illinois, at Indiana, and home against Wisconsin coming up. It's more likely they win this and then go right on another 4 game skid (at least)

Yes I do realize it could get worse, I enjoy speaking in extremes lol

I posted my head coach pick below...even though it would be a huge gamble

What about Scoonie Penn? Ohio State legend...currently coaching in the NBA....currently coaching one of the most exciting players in the NBA...Would it be a gamble? It sure would be. But it would be an exciting hire that probably wouldn't break the bank...and either it works out or it doesn't work out and it gives the program more time to wait for that home run hire candidate to truly be available. Because I don't think a current HOME RUN hire who would seriously consider coming here exists right now. Scoonie would be my pick. Someone mentioned Evan Turner above...ET is my favorite OSU athlete of all time but I would feel better with Scoonie.

I think it's a lot more likely Holtmann opts for a change of scenery after this season than Gene firing him. This season is 95% heading for disaster, but I don't think Gene would consider firing him until April 2024 at the earliest. I don't hate Chris Holtmann one bit and obviously the dude has forgotten more about basketball than I ever will know...but the doctors are about to quit administering CPR and are about to call the time of death on this era...as Herbie Husker peers through the window with a sinister look in his face.

Sometimes things just don't work out!

Here's the problem....you've got your best freshman class in years, your best transfer portal haul to date, the conference is down (don't tell me it's a great conference, only 2 teams are currently ranked) and yet here we are AGAIN. You're starting to see OSU left out of the brackets too...namely Jerry Palm's latest which doesn't even have OSU as a First Four Out level team. 

It's just not getting better. Hell, it's getting worse.

Let's hope Holtmann is next to be heading out of Columbus

Tongue-in-cheek indeed.

It's all god my friend - it's healthy for people to have separate opinions and that's what makes sports message boards fun lol

According to Jerry Palm's bracketology that was updated this morning, Ohio State is officially out...not even one of the first four teams out. Yes lots can change, but midpoint year 6 you're a bubble team with absolutely no good will to fall back on.

Honestly...at this point, hire anybody. Minnesota's coach would be an upgrade!

Looking forward to this gentlemen....I have all of the basketball questions lol

The difference is that McGuff had previously made the Elite 8 at Xavier and won 3 straight conference titles there. He also won the B1G twice in a row (2016-2018). So there was actual evidence that McGuff could get his teams over the hump, and then last year and this year he's got that program rolling.

Holtmann has zero conference titles, zero conference tourney titles, and made the S16 one time at Butler because he got to play Winthrop and then Middle Tennessee State. This is now the fourth time in his six years as a coach his team has lost 4 games in a row in conference play. They blew chances to win the B1G by finishing 0-4 and 1-3 in consecutive years, and blew the easiest path to the Elite 8 in school history by losing to Oral Roberts. How much more evidence do we need to realize this guy just isn't ever going to get it done? Holtmann isn't worthy of holding the clipboard for McGuff.

Jared Sullinger. Zed isn't athletic enough to be a starting center in the B1G. He regularly gets toasted on defense, and he misses way too many easy shots. If I got a second choice, I would replace Ice with David Lighty. We keep hearing that Ice does all these good things for the team that don't show up in the box score - that sounds like somebody telling me I have a great face for radio.

The truth though is that what this team needs is a coaching swap. I think we would be in better shape if we could replace Chris Holtmann with the re-animated corpse of DC Huddleson

How is Chris Holtmann an excellent coach?

If you look at his resume and really dive into stats, nuance, all that jazz...he's pretty mediocre. What do we have to do to get McGuff to be able to coach both squads?

Very doubtful these guys go into Pinnacle Bank Arena on Wednesday and end the streak. 
 

Year 6 and I don’t think we can beat Nebraska on the road.

Harsh to say he’s done nothing…no other OSU head coach has ever lost to a 15-seed! That’s gotta count for something right lol

Not really sure what else you can say anymore. 
 

My only question is how bad does this have to get before he’s gone this year? I figured he would get two years but man, I’m starting to doubt that. This is a full blown disaster

I’ll be shocked if they win today.

Feels like they either win this and go on a winning streak or lose and the season really goes off the rails.