THE SITUATIONAL: Film Study from Hell

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Kyson12's picture

Screw Michigan. That’s all I got. 

Fire Kevin Warren

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BigAppleBuckeye's picture

We"ll win the game or know the reason why!

If your opponent knocks you on your ass, honor the game and RESPECT him. But Gentlemen, no bastard ever won a football game by getting knocked on his ass. You won it by knocking the other poor dumb bastard on his ass and making HIM respect You!!

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Day-310's picture

the tone at the end really helped, THANKS! 

The way Day blew up the defense last ear gives me a modicum of hope that he might just relinquish the pla calling to Wilson upstairs. It seems like something that would clear up the issues.

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BuckeyeBattleCry11's picture

Wilson or Hartline before Hartline leaves

Bbc11

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Snake64's picture

Heard rumors Hartline and his agent are looking for something more. Not sure you can expect him to stick around in that position forever and I would never hand him play calling duties with no prior experience. It's why Day shouldn't have been handed a Ferrari with no prior experience because this looks clunky as if he forgot to get the maintenance done every year. Born on 3rd stings a little more this year. 

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LouBuck35's picture

Rumors from where?  That would contradict everything he has said about wanting to stay in Columbus.  He just got another significant pay bump and the "passing game coordinator" phantom title to justify it.  

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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Snake64's picture

One I can say for sure is Zach Smith so take it however you choose I know how some feel about him. His personality is annoying but he's had good film breakdown. He specifically mentioned Cincy could be looking at him as a HC and my God i think that would be a terrible mistake. Also i've heard about Fickell tapping him for Wisconsin. 

Guys can say whatever they like it doesn't make it true. Day said all year we'd be tougher, basically come for revenge etc. and we see that was lip service. I truly think Hartline should go somewhere and develop further before returning. I love what he's done as WR coach but one huge issue is that outside of EE and Harrison guys don't create seperation and for the first time in years they flat out refuse to block. They're as much an issue with the run game and screen game because of this. 

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d5k's picture

I think Fleming has been fine as a 3rd WR.  1st world problem there.  Not having actual tight ends who can do everything the position requires, especially blocking, is the biggest problem on offense besides injuries.

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Colortv1967's picture

Borrowing a great line from Jack Nicholson, there’s a lot of guys that can’t handle the truth. 

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Osuchoochoo's picture

Hartline is good as gone!

OSUchoochoo! Get on the buckeye train

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Snake64's picture

You're so right I didn't hear shit and then BAM articles about Hartline interviewing with Cincy all over the internet and one written 9 hours ago by a writer on this site... Maybe some of us have actual insight and not bitter feelings

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SilverHaven's picture

Mahalo, Ramzy and Kyle, articulate and insightful.
And ouch.
If any of us tried to write this, we would be down-voted into oblivion.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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TitaniumMan's picture

that gif of Day at the end of Carmen. 

" Do not go gentle into that good night, rage, rage against the dying of the light "

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Dppete's picture

We ‘blew up’ the defense, but guess what…. Same result. Knowles defense ‘knows’ it will give up big plays -so we saw the perfect example of his defense -stop the other team 90% of the plays, but give up 500 yds and 45 points. I think those stats /results should give all of us pause to reflect if this is what we want. I’ve railed several times about 3 safeties, but I’ll say it again. We have an extra guy that CAN’T cover WR and is too small to fill a LB role. You can scheme all you want, but then the big plays (run and pass) hit you. I’m afraid for the future in our BIG games ( highly ranked teams). 

Forced by work to live in the mitten

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Dasniksder's picture

This is correct. When I heard him say his defense is designed to give up 4-5 big plays a game, I immediately thought, that’s fine against Indiana, but Bama and Georgia will beat you with those 4-5 plays because they will be td’s not just 30 yard gains. I was too naive to realize that included Michigan’s clunky offense. 
Two straight losses to Michigan puts you on the hot seat, three will get you fired. Your move Ryan.

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BurtBucks's picture

Only 7 of those points were directly attributable to Knowles’ scheme/gameplan/playcalling — Cornelius Johnson’s touchdown against Cameron Martinez, because it is the only play where Michigan took advantage of a mismatch created by the scheme, and it still required them to break out an element of their offense that has been non-existent all year to exploit that mismatch. The other big play scoring drives were all purely execution issues — Burke slipping to leave Ronnie Bell wide open, two missed tackles turning an 8 yard pass into a 69 yard touchdown, Ransom and Burke miscommunication leaving Loveland wide open, and two long runs in garbage time after the team had already quit.

Knowles forced Michigan abandon their offensive identity and lean on their biggest weakness in order to execute low percentage plays and make something out of nothing. There’s no schematic solution for player performances so putrid that that becomes a winning strategy.

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ChazBuckeye's picture

Thank you for these masterful quotes, and I can tell you're my age, Ramzy. I'm glad you get it...

"OSU won the analytics contest. Maybe we should start a Gold Cargo Shorts tradition to celebrate."

"If you're hired to lead Ohio State's football program, a full indoctrination into the Michigan rivalry is required onboarding - especially for an interloper from, say, Tennessee or New Hampshire.

Reader, if you think that's dramatic or cringey you must be from somewhere else. You do not get it. And that's fine, you're allowed to be an infidel in Ohio State's toxic football religiousphere. Ohio State's head coach is not. That's a showstopper."

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

Woody Hayes

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OSUandUofMGrad's picture

Agree that this was a fabulous write up - it gets that there was more to it than the obvious issues with the x's and o's that allowed 5 monstrously bad big plays on defense and avoided the forward pass like it was 1912 on offense. 

And not to make anyone feel worse about the theme of winning with your stars doing what you do best by bringing up details of a game that's ancient history...  But regarding the Sander to Nickey fake that was referenced, I know one of the defensive players from that team really well.  After the game, I commented that "I'm guessing that fake punt worked every time in practice" and his response floored me - "I've never seen that play in practice".  Thankfully Tressel arrived soon after. 

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bucksncats's picture

I'm not from somewhere else and I still think it's fucking stupid. This mindset that Ohio State must only be run by Ohio men is the same bullshit Michigan said after Rich Rod was awful. And it got them Brady Hoke. Ryan Day's two losses have fuck all to do with where he was born and raised

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ChazBuckeye's picture

You might want to look at factual history of the football team you root for the last 70 years, and the success those Ohio coaches had in simple comparison to the out of state guys. Bc you're totally wrong, but that's cool...

All Ohio guys....
Woody
Earle
Tressell
Urban

Not Ohio guys...
Cooper and Day

Gotta love factual history....

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

Woody Hayes

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Krish the Fish's picture

Ramzy is not saying that they need to be born and bred Ohioans (and please someone correct me if I’m wrong, a little delirious after dropping my wife off at the airport at 5 AM) but that they need to be indoctrinated, baptized, confirmed into the religion of Ohio State. They need to understand what we feel, understand why we care so much about this Game, and why the rivalry matters.

Hearing CJ Stroud say this game does not define him shows how stark the difference in WHAC has been since Urban’s departure. This game was circled from 364 days out when Meyer was at the helm. He indoctrinated those dudes in the rich history of the rivalry and through that the history of the program and Why This Game Matters. And it seems clear either Day is not doing that or he’s not doing a good job of it. Either way the buck stops with him. 

I’m not one of the people calling for his head, to be clear. But I think the culture needs to be righted or else we’ll be watching more of these Big Ten Championship games from our couches instead of in the stands. 

B.S. '13 (Biology; Philosophy minor)

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ChazBuckeye's picture

TL;DR
All I'm saying is OSU coaches NEED to be from Ohio. Period...
Even TTUN regularly took OSU coaches to beat OSU, besides Carr who was from Tennessee, but he understood the rivalry (and was good at beating OSU until the sweater vestvtook over...). Most of them were even born and raised in Ohio. So, to say it doesn't matter where these guys are from is kind silly....

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."

Woody Hayes

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bucksncats's picture

It's not silly. It's a fucking clown take to say where these guys were born is what determines how good they are. Saban was born a million miles from Bama. Never had a job further south than fucking Northern Virginia before going to LSU & Bama. Now he's the dominant force in the South.

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Skibuck's picture

Love everything about this.  I will read it at least 10 times today.  My mind won’t stop replaying everything but this summarizes all the feels for me.  Thanks as always.  Go Bucks.  May this never happen again.

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mrjb2222's picture

I find it really hard to believe that Knowles didn't review the Mich tape from the 2021 game.

Great read!

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teddyballgame's picture

He watched the tape just didn't want to talk about it publicly.  There's nothing good to say 

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bd2999's picture

If he did or did not should not matter too much though. The teams are different this year so he would know what he had and he would have a season of info on Michigan. So, not sure what he would need too much on that front of what went wrong last season. IMO. 

I mean if he had, they stopped the run pretty well most of the game. The problem was the back end, which is a different problem than last year. All or nothing I guess. 

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mrjb2222's picture

I'm sure it was one of the first things he did when he got the position, to better understand his own personnel at the very least.

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Snake64's picture

He absolutely watched last years tape and gameplanned this game for exactly that even though they were missing their best RB and the backup had a broken hand. 33 plays of 60 had 8 in the box, 23 plays had 7, and 4 plays had 6. It was bound to give up some huge plays and it did. No way he could've trusted the backend of the defense the way they've played all season. What looked like winning the line of scrimmage / stoning TTUN run game was a mix of 8 guys crashing into 5-6 and a hobbled running back struggling on the exchange. 

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AzBuckeye45's picture

I honestly have to wonder if Knowles watched any of UM's footage from this current year! SMH. 

"Cause I couldn't go for three!" Woody Hayes-1968

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Buckloving's picture

He watched the same thing that all the fans on here watched. You know all the one's that said that they couldn't throw the ball down the field

bobbyd

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Buckeye71's picture

Did you? They are the most dominant running team in the country. And they are way over balanced in favor of running vs passing. Even most MI fans themselves would have believed they were in for a long day if they couldn't run. McCarthy had just had several games where he only hit about 50% of his passes and he was particularly bad at long passes. Every DC in America would likely plan to stop the run and not worry overly much about long passes. In any case there's virtually no way to plan a defense that can account for a cb completely whiffing on a short out route and letting it turn into a long td or having your best cover safety get beat for a long td by a backup TE. You can't double team receivers on short out routes. You can't double team the TE. The simple fact is our dbacks just aren't very good in pass coverage. Scheme all you with average dbacks, but somebody is going to get open.

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rlyon's picture

I find it hard to believe he didn’t add a free safety or two after halftime. And what kind of moron would play one minute without one. Idiot!

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Buckeye71's picture

I'm getting more and more annoyed by ignorant comments like this. Which TD do you think would have been stopped by a free safety?

The 75 yarder was given up by our deep safety. The long one to the TE was given up again by our deep safety. The first long td came when our cb whiffed on a tackle while we were blitzing. Would your game plan have included never blitzing? And what role did you think a free safety would play on those two long runs. Would you actually have kept a guy deep knowing that MI was almost certain to run and grinding out a few first downs would eat up the clock? If we had been using a free safety earlier that would been the right time to replace with an extra LB.

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BeatTTUN's picture

Was hoping after a victory this weeks The Solo would have been Pop goes the weasel by 3rd Base. 
Unfortunately, I got the Gas Face. 
Don’t worry your pretty little heads Dudes and Beckys, it’s going to get better. 

Thank you Ramzy y Kyle 

Go Buckeyes 

Beat Michigan 

I saw Ryan Day hang 62 on Michigan...His hair was perfect.

Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan

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RCRoy45's picture

What a well done piece - sad that it had to be written but will be the ultimate treatise on this game.  Go Utah…

It was very spot on - the game was my girls first TTUN game and my oldest was 13-0 going into this game - and she left 13-1… the sinking feeling start with with her about halfway through the second quarter and she wasn’t even as angry as she was after the 2019 Fiesta Bowl - this was just shock combined with disgust and disappointment- but also knowing - this game was a total domination.  
 

My oldest. Emerosn, had an interesting perspective since she herself is a high level golfer for her age - she felt the team was waiting for someone else to make a play - just not them… and she’s to young to know this - but it ‘‘twas the same as it was in ‘96…

the moment for me was not quite the botched fake punt - it was the 3rd and 3 before the Xavier Johnson Jetscreen that failed - there was a tv timeout due to a UM injury.  Stroud was tossing passes on the sideline while Day and the rest of the offense was dialing up the play???  Excuse me - why isn’t CJ in the middle of this at the time.  I remember the 4th and 14 v Miami - Krenzel wasn’t warming up on the sidelines (though he may have needed to more than CJ ever did) he was discussing the plays with Tressel… to me that moment told me all I needed to know.

Ohio State - with Ryan day - needs a Czar of football.  I propose we hire Speilman or JT or even Urban to fill this role to add in the details and passion we need.

Essentially- TTUN took a long look in the mirror in 2020 and basically made their program a carbon copy of Tresselball - and if it didn’t involve beating us to a pulp with less talented players - it’s a real site to see.

“And in the night of death, hope sees a star and listening love hears the rustle of a wing.”

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Yea, I can see why so many think we got dominated, because in the moment, it's very hard to separate the play from the feeling. That said, in rewatching the film with sound off, you can clearly see that it was a well-fought game by our kids EXCEPT for MENTAL LAPSES on the 5 big plays they gave up. Those 5 plays can be pointed at not just our kids but to the broader lack of an edge that seems to be lacking in the training in WHAC

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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Snake64's picture

Those weren't mental lapses it was Knowles being too aggressive for too long and not disguising anything. It let TTUN dial up plays on a defense not designed to have success. You can't crash 8 in the box all day and not expect to give up several big plays. Even the long TD runs at the end had 8 and all it took was one big block to free up a homerun.

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Didn't downvote you, but the long Edwards run in the 4th quarter when we ran a run blitz that put the whip cream on top of their win was because our NT got moved from his A-gap responsibility to crash into Sawyer on the end and Eichenberg got caught in the wash. That means 3 guys got traffic jammed into the same gap... So Edwards had no color in front of him...

It's a run blitz... Have to die fighting for the gap assigned to you...

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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Buckeye71's picture

Yes. Thank you for a football- savvy comment. And of course you're going to load the box against a team that likes to run when they have lead late in the game are trying to eat up the clock. So many here are ranting, but have no idea what they are talking about.

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Snake64's picture

Trust me that ain't football savvy to be making excuses after that game. 

The football savvy were pointing this shit out 2 months ago as I was but most didn't want to admit it and I was put into timeout for a month and TTUN proved me right. 

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Buckeye71's picture

What the F are you talking about? We were never in a position all year of having to stop a team trying to run out the clock so that we could get the ball back and try to get back into the game. You haven't been pointing out this shit for 2 months because it is the first time all year we've been in that position.  The savvy comment was simply a good football analysis of why our all-out run stopping attempt failed. And pointing it out that it has nothing to do with safeties over the top, or more free safeties needed.

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Snake64's picture

I don't care about downvotes i literally had to sit in timeout for a month because i was getting downvoted into oblivion for pointing out flaws that showed itself against the one team that could expose it for 4 quarters. 

The problem with your point is that TTUN has arguably one of the best O lines in the country and the best center. Who moved the NT out of his A-gap responsibility? The damn center. Eventually you could see their line winning the line of scrimmage despite us having a numbers advantage every down. It was poor coaching to send all out blitzes at the end because clearly their staff seen something they ran the same damn play 5 times in a row basically. You can only run cover 0 for so long when you hadn't done it all season long and not expect to get blitzkrieged. This game was equivalent to our Iowa game. 

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Buckeye71's picture

You're so angry you're not even thinking straight. Outside of those two long runs they didn't even average 3 yards per run. Stop and think. That is fantastic against any team, let alone one noted for how good it is at running the ball. You did not actually see them beginning to win the los. Only those two runs made it look that way. In any case you complained about 8 in the box. In case you're looking for a DC job you will never get it if that is what you think. With less than one half of one quarter left facing a team that is trying to run out the clock of course you put 8 in the box. You have a problem with cover 0 at a time like that? You really want to keep multiple guys deep just in case they pop through our dline which has been playing will all game? If you don't load the box they are simply going to get 3 or 4 or 5 on every carry and you'll never get the ball back.. Then the game is likely to end badly watching them eat up the clock then doing your best to get a  3 and out and get the ball back right away.

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Buckeye71's picture

Maybe as time passes more people will see that this correct.

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BuckeyeVet's picture

Thank you for this, Ramzy.  As someone who grew up in Central Ohio, spent 8 years at OSU, and has been watching The Game since 1968, I am completely behind your perspective on The Rivalry and what it means. My biggest fear has always been OSU losing it's "edge" and not taking The Game with the seriousness, intensity, & gravity it deserves.  I still have "Post-Traumatic Cooper Stress Syndrome".  Can we make sure your article winds up in Day's hands?

And now I'm going to go re-read it.  Excellent work.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."-Groucho Marx

Goals: Beat Michigan. Win the B1G East. Beat Michigan. Win the B1G CG. Beat Michigan. Win a Natty. Beat Michigan.

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oztintacius's picture

I kept wondering how many times Michigan was going to get away with lining up a freshman on Marvin Harrison Jr in press man. As many times as they wanted after that final score in the 2nd half apparently.

I don't understand running the ball and scheming to get 1 on 1 matchups that you don't take advantage of. It's weird.

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tcm1968's picture

I will continue to say this until I hit the grave..... a TON of easy stuff like you are pointing out, is much harder to see when you call plays form the sideline... being up in the box gives you a clear view of everything.. Also, when you are constantly looking at your play chart and second guessing yourself it just magnifies that junk.

Go Bucks!!!

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Berg2004's picture

It ain't hard to know that #18 is Marvin Harrison Jr and you should feed him like you would any elite #1 like a Rice, Moss, or his dad.  Or that we were whipping their DL running the ball.  Maybe Day needs to be tested for ADHD...seriously.

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tcm1968's picture

Feed him the ball, sure.. I'm talking about when you're looking down the line, and people are moving around, and MHJ is lined up 40 yards across the field,, it can be tough to see who's got him in coverage... easy to spot from the box upstairs...

That's happened a number of times, where you hear Klatt or Blackledge say someone left the field and they have someone new out there, they need to attack the new guy, and then we never do..... again, I don't think Coach Day sees that stuff.... he's too busy looking at his play sheet most of the time... 

Go Bucks!!!

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Berg2004's picture

I get what you’re saying, but everyone has a headset. 

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Ethos's picture

I was wondering what the hell happened with that punt.  How dumb.

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tcm1968's picture

That first clip was sort of the same thing we saw with one of their long TD runs... where another defender isn't going 100% because he thinks someone else has the play managed.. In that clip notice how Sawyer lets up a little, and then when he realizes Brown whiffs, kicks it back into gear and just misses.. if he just plays to the whistle he probably makes the tackle for a 10 yard gain...

I still don't mind the cover 0....... but if you are going to do it, as seen in the clip, it's GOT TO BE something a beat faster than Ransom getting the free shot. That's the difference.. when Denzel Ward at 4.3 would get a free shot he'd get home... Ransom is mid 4.5 guy.... that's all the world in coverage zero..

Same thing we saw with Sawyer we saw with Burke.. where he is sort of jogging thinking Ransom has Edwards, and when Ransoms misses he then kicks into gear..

That's just discipline.... playing to the whistle... not silver bullets.. all just go back to lack of team discipline imo.. that's on the head coach.

Go Bucks!!!

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Snake64's picture

Ransom almost blew that play up though as their guard whiffed on a chip block. Had he done that number 14 from TTUN was walking into the endzone wide open up the middle. That said you have to give JJ credit for that throw off his back foot with a defender screaming at his face. CJ had an almost identical situation at 9:12 in the second quarter and threw a terrible pass to Julian on the sideline that he couldn't haul in. 

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oldebucke's picture

It would be beneficial for Day and Knowles to read this write-up....they probably have a little more spare time now unfortunately.

If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.

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Nutinpa's picture

I would be curious from anyone posting who was at the GAME on Saturday, preferably in C deck, as to whether ANYONE was getting open on passing plays.  Despite Ramzy's (nice work today, btw) assertion that 2 of TTUN's DBs "sucked" , every time I saw a pass play it seemed Michigan's DB were draped all our over MHJr, EE or Fleming.  No YAC and every pass seemed contested.  So....what exactly WAS open?

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nitro27man's picture

The place JSN was so dangerous in...the short middle. 

J. Scott

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tcm1968's picture

Couple of examples... when it was 10-10 with like 6 minutes left we had a 2nd and 6. Dawand did a false start and made it 2nd and 11. Michigan is playing press coverage at the top of the screen on Emeka and MHJ.. on the bottom though, the corner is like 10 yards off the line covering Flemming.. and the dude bails back further on the snap... CJ threw the ball to Emeka, and it was dropped, but Flemming is down there with no one within 10 yards of him for what should have been a pitch and catch first down..

We clearly saw CJ missed the read, and went back to it the next play with personnel changed up.. and Emeka is open for a first down ( good 4-5 yards separation)  and CJ sails the pass over his head. and we kicked a FG.

Go Bucks!!!

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Snake64's picture

With real pressure and games on the line as accurate as Stroud is he falters. Even on the long TD pass in the first half that he threw to MHJ was an amazing throw but it wasn't the right read. Julian Fleming absolutely dusted the guy covering him on a post route on the left side where he would have walked into the endzone. Too often CJ wants to see what he thinks is right and doesn't move fast enough. This is fine against Indiana because the talent isn't even close but against competent teams of similar talent this has been the result. Even his pass to Cade Stover was late and poorly thrown. He put too much air under it and lead an unathletic converted LB stretch out for a pass that ALLOWS the TTUN corner to make a play. Better thrown ball and it's a TD. 

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stlbuckeye15's picture

"If you gash them with a running play, run it again. If your Biletnikoff finalist makes a catch, target him again. If something starts working, hammer that button until it breaks, because it breaks their spirit. There's no reward for randomizing things."

So true. 

I was hoping for Clemson 2020 and instead got Clemson 2019 (minus the bad reffing). 

Day needs to see himself as the CEO, like was said. Hand over the keys, hire the right people, and OBSESS over the details. Hire as many analysts as is needed to statistically and mathematically prove what is and isn't effective and what needs to change. 

OSU didn't get outmuscled like it did a year ago. They were plenty tough and didn't sleep walk into this game. And they still got crushed because they weren't technically sound and failed to execute when it matters most. They were not prepared to win and it showed big time. 

The talent is there. The will is there. Put it all together, Coach Day. 

“If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.”
-Jack Handey

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LWiegand91's picture

too many cooks in the kitchen? How many Associate head coaches / running game coordinator / passing game coordinator, Offensive Coordinator, etc. While Day says he is in charge, maybe too many trying to influence what is going on?

Ryan Day            Head Coach      

Justin Frye          Associate Head Coach for Offense / Offensive Line Coach                            

Larry Johnson    Associate Head Coach / Defensive Line Coach    

Tony Alford        Assistant Head Coach for Offense / Run Game Coord. / Running Backs Coach

Kevin Wilson     Offensive Coordinator / Tight Ends Coach

Brian Hartline    Passing Game Coordinator / Wide Receivers Coach

Corey Dennis     Quarterbacks Coach

Mike Sollenne   Graduate Assistant, Offense

Keegan O’Hara  Graduate Assistant, Offense

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stlbuckeye15's picture

I could be wrong, but I think that basic structure is common in college football. There are a lot of people involved. It's a big operation. 

Day needs to oversee everything but delegate as much as he reasonably can in my humble opinion. Put the right people in the right positions, hold them accountable, and let them flourish. I don't think the problem is that there are too many cooks in the kitchen. I think Day is micro-managing the offense to an unhealthy degree and other teams have caught on to his tendencies/weaknesses. We need to freshen things up on that side of the ball. I don't know exactly how it should all be organized, but Day needs to figure that out. Knowles has work to do too. The secondary struggled immensely and he needs to figure out exactly why. 

Not sure why you were downvoted, but I upvoted to offset.

“If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.”
-Jack Handey

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another-navy-buckeye's picture

This SB15, are my thoughts exactly. Just seems he micromanages the offense far too much.

Blessed to be a Buckeye

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SilverHaven's picture

Yes, Wiegand, sometimes more is less.  Like the failure of the well planned Ford Edsel from everybody. Then along comes Iacocca with his skunk-works and the Mustang.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Bucky Buck's picture

This is the one we've all been waiting for. Can someone sit Coach Day down in front of a laptop and make him read this? I think a reality check is in order. 

Born a Badger, Raised a Buckeye

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Orca's picture

I would go a step further. Make him watch film of as many Michigan losses as you can find. Then when you get to the mid-1990s, edit a video of one of his Michigan losses so that it could conceivably look like it was played in the 90's and see how long it takes for him to get it.

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Mr. Figure Four's picture

Lot of anger and finger pointing in this write up. Shit happens. 

Mr. Figure Four

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Jdadams01's picture

Why do we act like finger-pointing is bad? Every successful organization engages in the occasional finger-pointing to hold people accountable and to stay innovative.
 

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oldebucke's picture

Yea, to make sure that same shit doesn't happen 3 years in a row.

If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.

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chris's picture

I wish this article would help make sure the same shit doesn't happen 3 years in a row... But I don't think that's how it works. I sure as hell hope they're honestly finger pointing and figuring this out.

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LWiegand91's picture

The defense was 3 tackles away from reducing the yards total to 300 yards and 21 points (the pass where Brown misses the tackle and the 2 long Edwards runs) - the other 2 long passes were players getting beat, period. The Edwards runs were the D selling out to try and get into the backfield etc as well/

Offense was the issue as if they had taken advantage in the 1st half and continued to score in the 2nd it would had been different. This was not the same as last year at all, the D didnt get bullied around, the O line did a good job. The game plan on Offense was not sound. Over the last 2 years, while Stroud has statistically produced, the defenses are able to jump routes, minimize separation and limit the Offenses effectiveness and only through vastly superior wide receiver talent are the plays working. teams are seeing the film and able to diagnose the plays quickly and stay with the recievers. There isnt enough CHANGE and variation going on at this time. They need new blood in the offense to shake things up. Whether it be a play caller, or something else, they need that to keep the defenses guessing more

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Whatsredandgrayallover's picture

I feel like part of the reason they are able to jump routes is they know what’s coming.  Between our “tells” that have been mentioned all season and the possibility that TTUN has gotten really good at stealing signs, it would make sense that they could jump routes.  I pray that we Clemson them next year and remove any chance of them stealing signs/plays.

F TTUN

GO BUCKS!

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Buckeye71's picture

I whole heartedly agree with this. We not only need a new play caller, we need new plays.

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AVBuckeye's picture

The Cheesecake Factory analogy for the offense is so unbelievably apt, but most especially the running game.

Our offense seems to be a little but of everything instead of sticking to a simple scheme that our players can execute out of a variety of formations. The result is a running game where our players are a tenth of a second slow, which is a tenth of a second too slow in The Game.

Beat Michigan.

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huffdaddy's picture

That was my favorite part because it was perfect.

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The Second Coming of Earle's picture

This is probably the best article all week.  No, actually the best article all year,.  

KUDOS!  GO BUCKS!

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Jdadams01's picture

This is exactly the article this fanbase needs. Thank you, Ramzy and Kyle.

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AltaBuck's picture

There is a time and place (situational) for an element of trickery in The Game that includes unsung players.  TTUN ran a RB jump pass using a converted LB for a big gain and first down. However, it needs to be the exception, not the rule.

For Day, it seems like his play-calling is more focused on the play itself and not what the defense is doing.  In the clip above (Swing pass to X Johnson), CJ needs to audible to the run call (or hand it off if it's an RPO). That's at least 5-7 yds if he hands it off. I completely agree that Coach Day needs to give up the play-calling.

"You ever hear of the saying "you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole; you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole." - Raylan Givens

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Shtinkycat1's picture

You summed it up perfectly. Day appears to be “married” to certain plays and he refuses to adjust when it isn’t working. This was even more evident on Saturday. The opening TD drive was a great mix of vertical play calling that Michigan couldn’t stop. On the second drive, while it resulted in a FG, Day went back to the plays and play calling that fans and sports media have complained out. It’s almost like he’s out to prove to everyone that those plays will eventually work if he just keeps calling them. 

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Horseshoe's picture

Nobody gets it. Day is saving the good plays for next year.

Robert M

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blueinsconsin's picture

"Day forfeited the advantages of flawless weather, superior star talent"

(this isn't meant to be a smartass post/question) - but why is superior talent brought up so much? OSU has better WRs, that's clear, and a great QB. That's where Ohio State is better than Michigan - but where else on the field is the talent different or superior to Michigans? It sure isn't on either line, LBs, or DBs.

Star ratings from recruiting sites are an estimate, but if players are not getting coached, potential and star rating doesn't matter - it's literally all about performance on the field, and I think it's pretty clear that Michigan performs at all levels as well and mostly better than Ohio State.

Not here to troll...Go Blue

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The Second Coming of Earle's picture

As I see it?  It indicates that we have two issues:

-Not wanting it as much as your guys -- Your team came even more motivated and had more "killer instinct".  Much credit to JJ.  He shows more guts than CJ, in my opinion.  And the same for several other players in your program.  It's also clear that Harbaugh had more fire in his belly.  Something seemingly lacking on our coaching end (minus Hartline and maybe one other coach).

- I'm going to say what others won't -- There is a "Brady Hoke" goofiness lurking around for the past couple of years in our program IMO,  SWAG before Hardware, was something that Jim Tressel used to get on folks about -- Always professed that you can gloat AFTER you win.  And Urban?  Love him or hate him, he'd call anyone a (pick an expletive) for being goofy during a practice or especially on gameday.  I am sure my reply will get downvoted, but that is what I see of all of this.

Your team was prepared, in part, because they take things more seriously.  That is truly what I see in all of it.

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Nutinpa's picture

Blue:  Someone is going to accuse you of being a troll, but you are spot on.  Outside of the QB and WR rooms, Ohio State has no talent advantage vs. Michigan right now that is being displayed on the field. It is a media creation that we choose to believe that is no longer accurate.  Shit, Ruggles is as good of a place kicker as we have had since Mike Nugent and your guy is the current Groza winner.  Go figure.  

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blueinsconsin's picture

I mean, sometimes I do intentionally rile up Ohio State fans here with my replies, but this one was not meant to troll at all (I honestly have great respect for the osu program and fanbase unlike MSU).

That being said, I do agree and appreciate the replies to my question. Its kinda how Michigan was in the Hoke era, obviously your OSU teams are better, but the mindset seems to be eerily similar. 

Not here to troll...Go Blue

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Interesting reading this and hearing film breakdowns by some others (full disclosure: Ross Fulton on Twitter and Menace2Sports). Reason I even listened to Zach's show was because he had Gareon Conley on to give his perspective of what he saw.

tl;dr: Biggest takeaways from Smith for offense and Conley about the defense was it was CJ's lack of stepping up in biggest games and Defensive secondary being lost:

OFFENSE:

They think it's not Day as a playcaller as much as it is just Stroud (they didn't disparage him so curb your urge you haterz)... not fair to compare him to Justin Fields either, but they think the offense is actually better in some respects than what Justin had, but clearly have see regression in 3rd down and red zone with Stroud vs Fields (no mention of whether or not it was because Justin was better at RPO and knew when to keep and run) - interesting stats were thrown out as both were in Day's offense for 2 years (3 total for Stroud):

CJ vs Fields as 2 year starters (with emphasis on big game performances

Day's Offense (In 6 biggest games over 2 years - they don't say which these were) CJ Stroud Justin Fields
3rd Down Conversions 37.9% ~50%*
Red Zone - are they finishing drives+scoring? 13/25 (52%) 61%
Turnovers (avg 1 per game for both so wash) wash wash
Offensive Penalties - NOT ENTIRELY QB's FAULT (More of an indictment on coachi/lack of discipline/culture) Avg 8 (66yds)/game, 47 total in 6 games ~400yds Avg 5.5/game, 50 total

*They felt Fields had an even more difficult road in that 3 of the 6 were against CFP teams (Clemson x2 + Bama)

Their conclusion is CJ hasn't been as good as needed to win in those 6 games (why did CJ not take shots to MHJ in single coverage whereas Bryce and Caleb have shown they are willing to take those shots) - so more of a lack of mental toughness. Physical skills are there.

- My opinion in all this... why is Day not coaching more of the need for mental toughness into CJ? Why is he, himself calling plays that don't accentuate MHJ like we did with JSN in the bowl game? Only Day knows...

DEFENSE:

Gareon was so good at painting a picture of what it was like during his time. Basically, it was as I posted before that there was an discomfort and edginess due to Urban having the asshole factor. Not going to keep typing this as it is elsewhere. 

Of note, in his opinion, IT WAS NOT THAT KNOWLES CALLED THE WRONG PLAY BY RUNNING COVER ZERO. He mentioned that when he played they played PRESS QUARTERS where DBs had NO HELP ALL GAME, and they would run it like that almost 7+ times a game, so even though Knowles used cover zero 11+ times, in his analysis, the DBs and Safetys did not understand their assignment NOR did they use the proper technique, so it wasn't the playcall, in his opinion, it's the lack of understanding the playcall, their assignment, and using proper technique (eg, Brown press-bailing on a cover zero was not what DBs are taught to do - he was just supposed to 1. tackle him or 2. reroute him towards the pursuit - ie towards his teammates in middle of field, not sideline). He also had criticism for what Ransom was doing, too.

- My opinion: DBs/Safetys are not on same page with what Knowles is calling or want to do... that lack of confidence has had them failing all season but bailed out by front 7 a lot... exposed.

Anyhoo.... it is what it is, but looks like 'experts' are pointing to this being CJ Stroud's fault on offense even though the Head Coach will always have to take the blame... for Defense, I'm wondering if Knowles doesn't feel like he can work with the coaches brought in by Day... whatever the case is, that ish needs to be fixed not just for post-season, but for as long as he is DC.

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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The Second Coming of Earle's picture

Love him or hate him, Coach Smith breaks down excellent tape, and gives it to you, no nonsense.

There's a few other sites that I also like for analysis, but Coach Smith's on the money.

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

I'm not the biggest fan of Zach as a WR coach as we are clearly getting more production out of that group with Hartline, and I don't know why people feel a need to paint him in either a positive OR negative light, but I find him rational when it comes to film breakdowns.

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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LawClub's picture

He is good at that, except when he has an agenda. That interferes in his analysis at times.

"Make Helen Well"

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bull1214's picture

That’s a lot of words to basically say K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid. Like, if trayanum is running well then keep running him til they do something different to stop him. Or maybe like, if the pass rush isn’t getting home after a handful of tries then maybe it’s a good idea to mind your deep third in case it happens again. I’m ok with using less heralded players to make a play that’s unexpected. Didn’t harbaugh use a lb’er at rb to throw a pass by simply running him straight up the middle one time early in the game? I don’t think day is cooper even if this has some cooper-like similarities but I’m sure if the wordsmiths keep saying it enough it might very well be spoken into existence in the minds of the faithful followers. I’m just not sure what that accomplishes in the end. 

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brutus0717's picture

Some coworkers and I were talking about this very subject. Since Saturday, I've been saying that Day doesn't truly understand the Rivalry, and until this morning it didn't dawn on me that he couldn't possibly understand it like those of us who have lived it. He called plays, especially in the 2nd half, like a man who was concerned with the prestige, or embarrassment, bestowed upon coaches as a result of the game, not as a man who wanted to win because he hated to see ttun win. I'm not sure that Day can learn it, but after 2 years of listening to Harbaugh gloat (which he's 100% entitled to), if he doesn't have a greater understanding now, I fear that he never will. 

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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BuckeyeBuck's picture

And yet scUM didn't beat us with Blake Corum or Schoonmaker or Ronnie Bell.  This Coco guy and a sucky JJ and an injured Dononvan Edwards, plus a cast of no-name DBs handed us our lunch.  Sometimes Ramzy's a great read, and I agree with some points like the criminal failure to involve Marvin more, but Ramzy drama often doesn't hold up when analyzed.

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brutus0717's picture

True, they didn't have their normal guys, but they stuck with their system, which has worked well for them for most of the last 2 years. Corum was unavailable, so McCarthy had to be more than his usual self (which he was), but they eventually stayed with who they were. Edwards stepped back in and got his.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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BuckeyeBuck's picture

JJ heaving bombs wasn't their normal system.  They went against their system to catch our defense off guard and then went back to it in the fourth quarter.

Our trick play sucked because the guys entrusted were role players?  No one knows why the snapper didn't snap it to Rossi. But the play was wide open and could've changed the game.  But since Ramzy knows his audience and knows they're in a Day feeding frenzy (and I happen to be highly critical of Day's play calling but mostly because he abandoned the run and then ran on passing downs), it's Day's fault.  Yet Harbaugh calls a trick play with a no-name LB lining up as a fullback and throwing a jump pass.  But it worked, so great call.

Day went for an early kill shot with a fourth down throw to Stover.  We can join Ramzy and suddenly pile on Stover, but he was a fine pass catcher and weapon for us all season long -- remember the "Farmer Gronk" love affair?  Stover was open.  Day was daring.  Unfortunately our Heisman QB overthrew the dang ball.  

I could go on and, like Ramzy, play selective history through 50 years of Games that I've watched, but it's a useless trip into downvote oblivion given the emotions right now.  I take second place to no one in the grief this game caused, and Day's play calling has been on my shit list all season long.  He needs to turn over the play sheet to someone else.  Still, Ramzy's fun read was just that -- a fun read that doesn't always hold up under scrutiny.

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

Yeah, I don't know how anyone says Stover dropped the 4th down pass. It was thrown way too hard. And since it was a bit high and outside you can't expect someone to one hand a pass of that velocity. He was open, the LB/DB was in trail mode so putting a little bit of touch/air on the pass would have allowed Stover to make a play or get interfered with. Then if he didn't come down with it, we would have had something to complain about.

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bucksk1n's picture

I don't think Stover dropping the pass is the main complaint.  The level of difficulty on the pass was huge and Stroud did as good as you could expect.  The level of difficulty to catch a bullet pass over your shoulder is even tougher.  On 4th and the season, you want to keep the play simple with high % that it will be successful.  We chose a play on 4th and the season hoping to roll a Hard 8.

That is not how you win in Vegas or against Michigan.

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

That I definitely agree with. It's a dead horse, but if you have a QB who is a running threat, spreading teams out and having a scrambling option on 4th and 2 or 3 is about impossible to stop.

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Spathiwa's picture

"This brings me to my biggest takeaway from The Game: Ryan Day needs to give up calling plays for this team."

Could not agree more with this.  I have never liked HC's that call the offense or defense.  Their job is to be in charge of the team.  If you are calling plays for one side of the ball, how can you interact with the opposite during the game, while the game is going on and not just at halftime?  It is a team sport and the HC should be involved with the whole team.

KY Buckeye

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chris's picture

Yes, all of this. Kevin Wilson can call the plays. He's good at that. I hope that's the decision heading into next season.

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ATLBuckeye92's picture

Damn this article is painful.  The loss always hurts so much, but when it is brought upon ourselves, it is in fact, demoralizing and psychologically damaging.

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TheShookster's picture

Ramzy and Kyle, thank you for this absolute masterpiece.

I think I've been too hard on Stroud but somehow way too easy on Day.

I feel like he's not going to give up play calling, so will be interesting to see where we go from here

"We didn't play with enough force tonight"

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ohiopanda's picture

2) strategic overthinking

Speaking of overthinking, this play was horribly frustrating to watch. They had just completed a long pass to Egbuka and had a little bit of momentum. Then on 3rd and 4 from the 10 yard line they take ~25 seconds of the play clock subbing players off and on to set up a play. And that play looks like it poorly fakes both a handoff and jet sweep while only one TE and one WR go beyond the line of scrimmage. So Stroud ends up having to throw it off his back foot to the corner of the endzone after Stover finally made his way across the field. We almost desperately need 4 yards and we're going run that play?

It almost worked, but that can't possibly be a play with a high success rate.

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celtic020's picture

This Ohio State team is so poorly coached and undisciplined.  I was in denial all season long because I generally trust Day but you can't argue he routinely makes the wrong decisions in down & distance + special teams situations.  Against Maryland and at least one other time this year, the Buckeyes lined up to go for 2 after a touchdown, took a false start penalty, and each time Day then sent the FG team back on the field instead of going for 2 from farther out.  You could argue that this bled over into the Fake Punt call on Saturday.  The team is so poorly coached that the F'ng Center, after a 5 yard penalty, doesn't even know the GD play call.  The fake was well designed by the OSU coaches, but how dysfunctional do you have to be not to be able to hit that in the biggest game of the year?  And furthermore, why aren't you just going for the 4th and 5 with your Heisman QB and your Biletnikoff WR?  It's totally disorganized and embarrassing, especially on special teams, where Day is completely lost.  Why are they taking all these penalties on high-leverage special tams plays in the first place?  As Ramzy said, it's fixable, but it starts with recognizing that they have a big problem.  And they do.   

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

The Game 2021 & 2022 | 1st Half: OSU 33, UM 21 | 2nd Half: OSU 17, UM 56

A buddy texted me at halftime and said, "we got this, we're a second half team!"

My reply: "they live in the second half, they dominate people in the second half, look at the Penn State game. We'll see who shows up..."

Well, we saw who, and what, showed up.

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DelhiWolverine's picture

Ramsy’s math was incorrect. Michigan’s first half points from 2021 and 2022 total 31 (14 in 2021 and 17 in 2022). 
 

Michigan has essentially played OSU even in the first half and then has opened it up in the second half. 

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cinserious's picture

A few things Ryan Day MUST do to attempt to even out the emotional investment disadvantage Harbaugh has over him:
#1) collaborate with Urban Meyer, Tressel, and even John Cooper to further understand what this game means, what it does to a coach (good or bad) ; figure out what the pitfalls are and craft a winning strategy for long-term success.
#2) Relinquish play calling responsibility to Kevin Wilson up in the booth
#3) Reevaluate his goals, which should always start with beating The Team Up North and winning the B1G. That means building a tough team on both LOS and becoming a run 1st offense.
I'm not ready to give up on Day yet, but I believe this type of change is necessary to stay employed at THE.

"Put ya' weight on it"

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stlbuckeye15's picture

Agree completely with 1 and 2. I honestly wouldn't even mind if they considered getting a new OC entirely. I'm not anti-Wilson, but it all just seems stale. Feels like we need a fresh set of eyes to see what works and what doesn't.

Regarding point #3- I truly don't think that's the problem. It is and was the team's top priority. And the Bucks were tough and for the most part did win the LOS. That's what made this game all the more infuriating. It was different than last season where they just outmuscled us. We could match their physicality but not their execution.

Agree that the offense needs to be run-centered. There needs to be balance, but if we are running the ball well then we should continue to. It helps an offense get in a rhythm and it keeps the opposition off the field. Also helps in short yardage situations and in the end-zone. 

Day seems to have a feast/famine approach to the offense. Yards and points can come in droves or not at all (3 points in the second half!!!). He needs to give up the play-calling as was pointed out in the article, but he also needs to have a different approach in my opinion. He's too predictable now. If it gets close the Bucks are gonna pass. And pass. And pass some more. I love that Day elevated the pass game but it seems to have come at the expense of a consistent, stable run game. That's not good, especially against TTUN. OSU can and should have both a GREAT run game and a proficient pass game.

“If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.”
-Jack Handey

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SilverHaven's picture

Or else,
#4) Assist Day in getting a job in the NFL to minimize his contract buyout.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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IveSeenItAll's picture

Unbelievably well written boys. Those of us that lived through the Cooper era are still scarred and, after watching Saturday’s game, those feelings came right the fuck back like they were there yesterday. It’s just sad because we all know how the story ends. Hopefully it won’t take 11 years this time…

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bux_booster's picture

Day should have had C.J. Stroud pick on that scab until it bled.

Reminds me of a favorite story of Jim Tressel:

"We played Illinois when we had [tailback] Joe Morris," Dick MacPherson, the former Syracuse coach who hired Tressel, said from his winter home in Florida. "Jimmy runs a sprint draw nine times to get into the end zone. The next series, he starts with a sprint draw. I get on the phone, and excuse my language, I said, 'Jesus Christ, Jimmy, don't we have another damn play?'

"He said, 'Yes we do, Coach. As soon as they stop this one, I'll call it.'

"That's Jimmy Tressel to me."

@Ramzy and @Kyle, to you gentlemen, thank you for this article.  Once we lost the game, I deleted the recordings of the game, Big Noon and GameDay that I had planned to go back and watch and rewatch.  I haven't been able to read more than the headlines on 11W or other Buckeye sites and could not listen to any of the podcasts I normally listen to.

But, your expected article(s) today was one that I planned to read through to the end, even if it pained me.  This is because the insight you always bring forth would help me understand the "why" and "how" of this game it has done exactly that.  While some of us scoff at the so-called importance of a "Michigan Man" to TSUN and their fans, the experience with a Tennessean and now a Delawarean at the helm of TOSU who did not grow up with this Rivalry has me even more in the belief that that is a key resume item for the role.  I really like Day and hope that he invites the OSU greats of the past that lived this Rivalry to a prolonged retreat with the entire FB staff to do a deep dive into what The Game is and how it should be respected. 

Also, I don't care what you are afraid the cameras might see, but Coach Day, I would much rather see a leader who has eyes full of tears and head up facing TBDBITL while singing Carmen Ohio in Ohio Stadium with those outgoing players that will never again be able to. To leave in the way he did bothers me more than it should, or maybe not.

I so desperately want to see the Utes beat SC Friday so that the possibility of a rematch is there, I just hope that this coaching staff and team are up to the challenge should it present itself.  I am 50/50 on that hope at the moment.

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

I had forgotten that Tressel story, but it is a perfect explanation (as is what Ramzy said) as to why this offense gets so frustrating at times.

How many of us, watching that PSU game, kept saying “throw the slant to Marv until they stop it?!?” Or “stop throwing bubble screens that don’t work because the personnel cannot execute them?” 

We were trained by Tress and Urban (and Woody) to tel the other team what we are going to do and do it to them.  Cooper was scared. Day is too creative and loves his theory of why things should work.

Run basic offense to your best players until the other team stops it. Snatch their souls with that.  Then you can sprinkle in a surprise.

AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

SIGH.

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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BeatMeechigun's picture

An outstanding read that was a painful reality. Hoping the staff learns from this past Saturday.

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OSUNEA1986's picture

While I appreciate the analysis of Kyle on the defensive mishaps, I don’t think they were the difference in the momentum or the outcome. I would appreciate Kyle providing a critical analysis on both sides of the contest. I was sitting just behind the OSU bench at the 48 yard line. It was evident that neither UM long passes would have stood had the game been refereed equitably. UM cannot pass block. They were permitted to hold defenders that would have readily sacked or disrupted those plays. Regardless, the non call changed the momentum and simply let M know what they could get away with, along with PI. I can make a great argument that, in an equitably referred game, the Buckeyes would have won. I would appreciate if the E-warriors team would run the data to see how many team with CFP potential have had zero penalties over 2 quarters in championship caliber games. I’m disappointed in Ramey for getting on the band wagon and fanning flames of perfection, ridicule and over-dramatization of 2 losses. 
As I watched the game I was confused for a bit re: in game adjustments. Then I thought strategically: what adjustment can be made and realized that you can’t adjust to holding, pass interference.

The game was lost when it required 105k  and about 45-60 seconds after the play (1k allotted to UM) escalating their hostility toward referees on a blatant UM penalty before they threw the flag. The rising threat to the refs was palpable. If you don’t think the fix was in- request the film- the entire field of play- not just TV camera views and watch from the perspective of an unbiased referee. I may be biased in the heat of a play, but upon  replay and afterthought, I will correct my 1st impression. I was disheartened for the players who are pawns in the BIG’s determination to fulfill their part of media contract they just signed that OSU has carried. If OSU beat UM this year, THE GAME would have lost relevance/ viewers. Instead, now subsequent years will maintain the high viewership TV achieved last Saturday. Follow the money.

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pjbowman's picture

So let it be written, so let it be done…

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OSUNEA1986's picture

My apologies for my typos.. misspelling Ramzy in particular.. I’m a fan of his writing style.

These boots were made for walking..

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OSUNEA1986's picture

My apologies for my typos.. misspelling Ramzy in particular.. I’m a fan of his writing style.

These boots were made for walking..

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mizzer's picture

And unfortunately, the locals don't take kindly to paycheck players.

It's a huge hassle, sure. They can coach at Wake Forest if they don't want to deal with it.

Abso-freaking-lutely!

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CSnowRun25's picture

The part that bumfuzzles me the most is, same OC/HC since 2017; same offensive strategy; same points average. Which begs the question(s): is it personnel?  Is it execution?  Is it “edge”?  Or could it be, and I vomit in my mouth a little while typing this, a TTUN organization that hired an NFL DC, and now has his disciple in the same position, that telegraphs the Ryan Day-style of offense?

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stlbuckeye15's picture

"Which begs the question(s): is it personnel?  Is it execution?  Is it “edge”?  Or could it be, and I vomit in my mouth a little while typing this, a TTUN organization that hired an NFL DC, and now has his disciple in the same position, that telegraphs the Ryan Day-style of offense?"

These are good questions.

IMHO, OSU execution is down AND TTUN is a lot better. 

On the OSU side- Big plays KILLED us. Gotta tackle and be in the right place at the right time. The secondary looked lost and ill-prepared. To be fair, I think OSU focused a lot on the run cause ya know, that's how TTUN won all their games this year. But some of the miscues and poor execution is just inexcusable at this level. We are getting outsmarted and out-techniqued on both sides of the ball. That's all teachable but OSU isn't doing an adequate job of it and it's painfully obvious.

I'm going to preface the following with this: I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I acknowledge that OSU had plenty of chances to win and failed to execute so it's their fault they lost. 

But I truly wonder if TTUN is pulling a Clemson and if sign-stealing is now a part of their magical formula for success. It would explain why they are destroying their competition in the second half. If I were Day, I'd plan for this game as if they were sign-stealing on an elite level.

“If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.”
-Jack Handey

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CSnowRun25's picture

I don’t think sign stealing is a conspiracy at all. It’s usually filed under the phrase “offensive tendencies”. That said, I look at where the TUN DC’s came from (big brother John in Baltimore). Give an NFL DC time to study “tendencies” and execute defending those at a high level, and the opposing offense begins to overthink; as was cited in the article. 
The Ryan Day offense (tailored after Chip Kelly) used to be run-dominant: Weber, Dobbins, Sermon. Now it’s Stroud-dominant. Perhaps I’m answering my own questions…

I’m a mini van driver in a mega fun world

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NorthBerg's picture

Throw for show. Run, block, anf tackle for dough.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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Brazenhead's picture

I'm having trouble reconciling the yardage breakdown given in the article. TTUN gained 530 total yards - if 360 were gained in 5 plays, and the rest of the plays netted an average of -3 yards per play, where did the additional 170 yards come from? Surely I'm not understanding the statistic correctly or something.

Born, raised, and residing in Enemy territory.

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Buckeye71's picture

54 plays aside from the long tds. 170 yards. That's 3 yards per play. Outstanding D on 54 plays. Horrendous D on the other 5

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Bake234's picture

Stroud isn't mentioned until the third from last paragraph. This is surprising. I saw a cautious, scared QB throwing check-downs most of the day. I agree play calling was spread around too much, but QB play has to better (and tougher).

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Greenbriar's picture

Day like Cooper takes the rivalry both not seriously enough (during the season) but also too seriously (in game). The coach and team seemed to have absolutely no fun out there. Fun + swagger + aggressiveness is what wins. Tension slows you down. 

Day needs to show some emotion. So does OSU's QB. Stroud was like a shy kid in a school play. Compare that to the enthusiasm of Krenzel, Pryor, Braxton, JT, Cardale, and Fields. 

And we need a QB who runs. Short-field problems with Haskins and Stroud but not with Fields.

The offense this year reminds me of 2015. Schemes obviously totally different. But in 2015 and this year, there was amazing talent but confusion and indecision about how to use it. And in 2015 there was a lot of tightness around the entire program despite the wealth of talent. 

Have Kevin Wilson call plays. Get Devin Brown as QB. Play with some swagger. And Day, somehow, needs to turn his attitude around and be irrationally positive next year. Follow Harbaugh's example. He was absolutely and totally humiliated but stuck with this cheesy "happy warrior" stuff. And you know what? That stupid Del Griffith unrealistic optimism sometimes works. 

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Wolverine_Killer's picture

All very good points in the article. And I would like to add, since I'm not through beating this dead horse yet....Gee Scott, if you want to headbutt someone and get flagged for it, at least make it count and do it to someone that really deserves it. Find Desmond F. Howard (because you know he'll be down there somewhere) and like a heat-seeking missile, deliver the payload and knock him the f*ck out.

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OfficerRabbit's picture

I've said it multiple times... Suspend him for the bowl game at least, if not boot his ass off the team altogether. Day and his comfy couch approach have players not scared of him. Scott hasn't contributed much this year, make an example of him. He turned an already difficult 1st and 20 series into a basically impossible 1st and 35 just by acting like a selfish idiot... in THE BIGGEST GAME OF THE YEAR. 

Stupid mistakes like that CANNOT be tolerated.

 

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BurtBucks's picture

Yank him from the game, sure, but kick him off the team because he let his emotions get the best of him? That’s just about the stupidest comment I’ve ever read on this site. The team plays scared the entire second half, and your solution is to ramp up the fear factor to 11 by making an example of a player who has modeled loyalty, unselfishness, and love for this team by waiting patiently on the bench and even switching positions while the transfer portal and instant playing time has beckoned every year.

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Buckeye71's picture

Moe over-reaction  from a fan. He made a terrible mistake at a terrible time. But you take that as a teaching opportunity, not as a chance to find a scape-goat for an overall team poor performance. You also don't decide how to discipline guys based on how much they are contributed. Easy way to lose the team - show favoritism to the stars and use the scrubs to set an example. Finally, fwiw, if Stover leaves I would think that right now he has the inside track to be our starting TE next year.

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

I agree 100% that Day needs to relinquish OC duties on gameday. Absolutely. Why do we have Kevin Wilson, ffs!? I think it’s also worth mentioning that Stroud may have been dinged up during the MD game (hip) which was why he was uncharacteristically inaccurate and we weren’t picking on the DB’s or getting MHJ more involved. I don’t know. But MOST inexplicable and totally absent from this otherwise excellent article is WHY IN THE NAME OF ZEUS’S BUTTHOLE did we have Chip Trayanum taking the majority of the handoffs and NOT Williams or Hayden. Did I miss that Hayden was hurt? I seem to recall an 11W article after MD “just hand it to Hayden.” Did he break his foot or team rules? I truly think this was the heart of our issue Saturday. Who is/was Chip Trayanum!? He did ok, but cmon. He transferred to OSU from ASU to be a LB. Oh well. Here’s to getting healthy and learning from everything. I KNOW Coach Day is NOT going to allow himself to become Cooper 2.0. If he didn’t “get it” before, HE DOES NOW. My prayer is this was the “wake up call” if one was needed. Heck, I want that flag now for our own museum!!

Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.

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stlbuckeye15's picture

Williams was not 100% and Day said as much.

I'm not sure why Hayden didn't get on the field but my guess is either ball-security issues in practice or they were worried about leaning on a true freshman in the biggest game of the season against a really stout D.

Chip did great in limited action. My question isn't "why did Chip play?" It's "why did we abandon the run game when it was working so well?" But that seems to be a theme of Day, especially when games get iffy. It's painful to watch.

“If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.”
-Jack Handey

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Buckeye71's picture

Williams was clearly hurt and it showed out there. He was actually hurting the team and needed to be replace. But I too sat there wondering whether Hayden was hurt or not. How did Chip move ahead of him on the depth chart. Well, that's what I was wondering but frankly Chip looked surprisingly good for a guy that hasn't carried the ball in a year. Williams leaves this year I'd consider moving him to RB Of course if both Eich and Chambers leave then he'd be in the running to start at LB or least be a key backup there. Vincnet and Gaotete will likely leave. So we could potentially lose 4 LBs.

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Doc's picture

Day does not understand the rivalry, he just doesn't.  And he will never get it.  Play calling needs to be taken away from him at the least.  What happens next year when he is 1-3?  Will Gene give him "another" year?  It is time to make some hard decisions.  I'm not saying Day needs to be fired anymore, like I was saying Saturday night, but something needs to change and change quickly.

“Ain’t life grand when you finally hit it!”  DLR

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joejoe04's picture

Great read, as always!

Have to say it's pretty interesting that I got downvoted into oblivion yesterday for posting a meme calling Ryan Day, Ryan Cooper. I agree, it can be fixed, but so far that's exactly what it is.

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Ruxin'sBuckeyes's picture

I honestly don't think Day will give up the play calling, then what?

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Doc's picture

I would think Gene Smith is going to have a conversation with Day after the season.  Gene may strongly suggest giving up play calling duties.  If Day says "No", then Gene gives him a one year leash.  If he fails in AA next year he should be let go.  JMHO.

“Ain’t life grand when you finally hit it!”  DLR

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mfell0727's picture

I couldn't sum up how I've felt since Saturday any better than every bit of this article. Every single point is spot on for me. Awesome work guys. 

Did you push yourself to be great today? If ya didn’t, ya lost a day. We ain’t got many days to lose. -Urban Meyer

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Lone MO's picture

Very good write up about the game calling for the game. But our receivers don't block well. And our DBs don't shed blocks well. So in practice this probaby looks good cause its weakness on weakness. This needs to get fixed.

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Neilwoodgables's picture

I am continually amazed how Ramzy comes and lays it out so more eloquently than most anybody can while still maintaining the raw angst of a regular old joe buckey fan.

Ryan Day needs to get situational during the season.

I Hate Michigan.

 

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JFBuckeye64's picture

Ramzy - Counterpoint to your Role Player thesis: Chris Olave in 2018. When he turned his first touch into a touchdown, the announcers had to look up how to pronounce his name. When he turned two other touches (a reception and a blocked punt designed for him) into two more, a star was born. But I take your point that a gamelan heavily featuring Dwayne Haskins throwing the ball to Paris Campbell and handing it to Mike Weber and J.K. Dobbins is what made a virtually unheard of 4th-stringer accounting for 3 touchdowns so demoralizing for the would-be Revenge Tour.

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bucksncats's picture

Ramzy's entire part of the article was just dumb. Day not being from Ohio has nothing to do with him losing 2 games. People here love to spout the bullshit of "non-Ohio guys not getting it" like it means anything. This game turned on about 2 or 3 plays in the first half that had fuck all to do with where Day was born. If Stroud hits the 4th & 2 to Stover & Brown or Jack make the tackle on the first TD, it's potentially 17-3 & suddenly the entire strategy is different. 

And like you said the Michigan game is made off guys who were unknowns in the season make big plays. Maurice Hall was the 3rd string running back in 2002. Tyvis Powell was a backup safety in 2013 and won the game. Dwayne Haskins & Cardale Jones were both back up QBs. Olave was someone literally no one could name before the 2018 game. The Michigan game is where plenty of unkowns have made their name

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Ramzy Nasrallah's picture

Day not being from Ohio has nothing to do with him losing 2 games. People here love to spout the bullshit of "non-Ohio guys not getting it" like it means anything.

Correct.

RAMZY: We've lazily blamed not being from Ohio in the past for being ignorant to how different this rivalry is, but anyone can convert to this religion. Earle Bruce didn't grow up in Ohio. Francis Schmidt was from Kansas!

Maurice Hall’s TD was his 78th carry of that season. Tyvis Powell started every game in 2013 at FS. Dwayne Haskins had to enter the game in 2017, he became the starter that afternoon. Cardale Jones had to enter the game in 2014, he became the starter that afternoon. Olave was the fifth receiver in 2018 behind Campbell, Hill, Dixon and McLaurin and had as many targets that game as Luke Farrell, they were just more memorable in a strategy that used Michigan’s insistence on playing man against it.

I usually don’t comment on posts like this but it’s hysterical that you think you put more thought into your extremely dumb comments than I did into this article.

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Greenbriar's picture

Serious question, will we avoid another Cooper era? Are there any reasons for optimism? I have been down in the dumps way more than I want to admit to my family and colleagues (and would only admit to fellow lunatics on this board) and fear that there is not much hope for the team. Then I will have to turn to the Browns and oh no that would be even worse. . . . I know we are all in our feelings and want to say that Day doesn't get it and we are doomed but is there any reason to hope. . . . I think yes because our recruiting is still great and there is nowhere to go but up. And, long term, Day has max two years to win. And if he loses two more, we can get Fickell (he would leave Wisconsin for us) or Vrabel (maybe he would leave NFL) or Freeman (if and only if he has proven to be a success at Notre Dame) or we could go into a lab and create a super-coach made up of a mixture of Woody/Tressel/Urban/Spielman/Archie/Jack Tatum/Johnny Utah.

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Gobucks's picture

Question….what is the title picture a pic of? Looks like a big shit stain to me.

"You don't have to like me, just respect me." - Woody Hayes

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

Thanks for making me feel worse again, Ramzy & Kyle. I was making my peace with this loss BUT NO … you had to go and solidify the Joh Cooper fear/overthinking that plagued my youth and young adulthood. Now I’m pissed and worries again. 

You just had to write it, didn’t you?

Now, be on your ways.

Good Day, Sirs…

I said, GOOD DAY! 

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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Maestro's picture

Love it, and The Blue Lagoon too.

*one point of clarification - UM has scored 31 points in the 1st halves of the last 2 games

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JHicks74's picture

Thx for the article.  In terms of the O being too complex, I was reminded of what may be an apocryphal story about Woody from the ‘70’s.  In a key situation, the O coordinator asked Woody what he wanted to do.  This was back in the day of dominant fullbacks.   OSU had several great ones.  Woody’s response “Give the big dumb*&# the ball.”  Sometimes, I think this should be the approach; “Just give the big dumb*&# the ball!”(note: I am not trying to cast aspersions at the intelligence of any past, current or future players!). 

Go Buckeyes!  Go Utes!

B Buehler

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Archerm's picture

Triple posted!!!! Well, well, well. Who's the big dumb*&# now??
Just kidding, I've done plenty of doubles, but triple?!? Well done.

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2010FisherMan's picture

He used the word “apocryphal”. CLEARLY a man of intelligence who probably has multiple degrees from a prestigious academic institution. 
 

Go Bucks, Go Utes, I Hate Michigan. 

“Success is the inner satisfaction and peace of mind that come from knowing I did the best I was capable of doing for the group” - Coach Tressel

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JHicks74's picture

Thx for the article.  In terms of the O being too complex, I was reminded of what may be an apocryphal story about Woody from the ‘70’s.  In a key situation, the O coordinator asked Woody what he wanted to do.  This was back in the day of dominant fullbacks.   OSU had several great ones.  Woody’s response “Give the big dumb*&# the ball.”  Sometimes, I think this should be the approach; “Just give the big dumb*&# the ball!”(note: I am not trying to cast aspersions at the intelligence of any past, current or future players!). 

Go Buckeyes!  Go Utes!

B Buehler

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JHicks74's picture

Thx for the article.  In terms of the O being too complex, I was reminded of what may be an apocryphal story about Woody from the ‘70’s.  In a key situation, the O coordinator asked Woody what he wanted to do.  This was back in the day of dominant fullbacks.   OSU had several great ones.  Woody’s response “Give the big dumb*&# the ball.”  Sometimes, I think this should be the approach; “Just give the big dumb*&# the ball!”(note: I am not trying to cast aspersions at the intelligence of any past, current or future players!). 

Go Buckeyes!  Go Utes!

B Buehler

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ChristianHaven's picture

I don’t know why it’s important to spell Biatabutuku correctly. I can’t spell it; I can’t pronounce it; I can’t get the bad taste out of my mouth. But all of you know what I’m talking about!

Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall. (F. Scott Fitzgerald)

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ChristianHaven's picture

I don’t know why it’s important to spell Biatabutuku correctly. I can’t spell it; I can’t pronounce it; I can’t get the bad taste out of my mouth. But all of you know what I’m talking about!

Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall. (F. Scott Fitzgerald)

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RoseBowl1's picture

So who’s going to print all of this out and put it on Day’s desk tomorrow? 

RoseBowl1

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Nutinpa's picture

Well......remember what John Madden said (I think it was Madden)......"when you start listening to the fans, pretty soon you will become one."  

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Osuchoochoo's picture

You play to win the Damm game. Hello! You play to win the game!

OSUchoochoo! Get on the buckeye train

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wildcat44's picture

how does writer come up with 54 plays for negative 3 per play and positive 360 on 5 plays  opponent had 492 yds of offense so if they lost 162 yds on negative plays how do they still end up with 492 yds?? which means they had 522 yds and subtract 160 yds. for 492

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Ramzy Nasrallah's picture

It was originally a different sentence and I missed this in the editing. Negative is an extra word, it’s been deleted.

DukeofWeimar's picture

We are all hurting..I get it. I hurt too. But saying Day doesn’t get it is self serving dribble. I guess  captain Harbaugh, Mr Michigan didn’t get the rivalry either going 0-5, and basically 0-6 with his cop out…and now is the master of the universe. Sitting at 2-5. 
 

I am old enough to have seen the ebb and flows of this rivalry. Two year win streaks (or more) have happened 23 times in this series Mich 11 and OSU 12. Suffer as you must..but the tide will come in again

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Maestro's picture

See, Rose Bowl 2022, for evidence that randomly sharing the ball on offense isn't something that this offense has to do.

Henderson - 17 carries

Other ball carriers - 3 carries

Smith-Ngjigba, Harrison Jr,, Henderson - 25 receptions

Other receivers - 11 receptions

Take what is given and keep doing things that work.  Get the ball to your best players over and over again. Worked pretty well that night in Pasadena so we have evidence that this staff understands the concept, but sure brain sharted on 11/26/22.

I'm very concerned.

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Crimson's picture

Williams/Chip, 22/29 (including sacks?)

Harrison, Egbuka, Fleming, 21/31

I don't know, not as different as I thought it would be from your comment.

Please consider reading the above with sarcasm font.

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Maestro's picture

Maybe a better way to say it is that on Saturday it didn't seem like we stuck with anything.  Splatter paint everywhere.  In the Rose Bowl everyone knew that Henderson and JSN were the focus, and we made Utah show us they could stop those 2 guys.  They couldn't.

I don't feel like we utilized our best of the best players enough on Saturday.

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SonnyDiego's picture

In line with the article, I am still shocked we have the best wide receiver in college football and we did not ride him on every series in the one game that mattered most.   Line him up wherever you need to but please throw him the football.  ttun had to be shocked we did not ride this horse all game long.  At a minimum the kid will get PI calls in his favor if he does not catch the football.

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pcola_buckeye's picture

Thanks Ramzy, Thanks Kyle!  Great piece as usual!

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Archerm's picture

Ramzy, if you could coach ball as well as you write, I'd find 10 m/year in booster money to get you hired. Well done on the article.

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buckeyetodd92's picture

Who was the Michigan DB the one year that we picked on over and over and over again? The entire game plan seemed to be to get that guy in a bad matchup and then exploit it. 

The cheesecake factory analogy is spot on.

Throw the ball to 18. Run a few plays that look like you are throwing the ball to 18. Repeat. Win.

True story: I served ribs to John Cooper.

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Cooper never got it. Will Ðay ever get it?

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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ScarletNerd's picture

Ramzy says everything my brain thinks.

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puddy's picture

Ramzy. Great article. Loved the Luke Farrell mention . He was a beast as a blocker. Very overlooked

puddy

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ShoelessKeithByars's picture

This wont be a popular take but what a juvenile article to be written by someone connected to the 11w staff. So a guy who coached under urban meyer, was insulted by harbaugh, fired his defensive staff due to last years loss, talked repeatedly about the pain of losing to them has no idea the game is important??? If only he listened to the casual fans he could have found out the game is meaningful!!
It's funny that harbaugh is suddenly the gold standard for how a coach should handle the rivalry. His 2016 meltdown and 2018 loss out-coopered most everything from the 90s.
There's plenty of rightful criticism over days performance Saturday and he deserves scrutiny. But "he doesn't get it" is weak at best. Using that logic every out of state buckeye is incapable of getting it as well.

“Glass, China, and Reputation, are easily cracked, and never well mended.”

― Benjamin Franklin

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mrjb2222's picture

Day definitely deserves criticism for his play calling and possibly for his culture, but the reason we lost has nothing to do with him not "getting" the rivalry. I'm sure he poured his heart into winning this game, he and his players just came up short. You could see the absolute pain on his face as the game was being closed out. He knows how much the game means, that is why when the 2nd half rolls around and the game is tight he starts to get/coach really nervously (and his team follows suit) - as the possibility of actually losing the game starts to set in.

He tried as hard as he possibly could to win the game, his best just wasn't good enough this year.

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Cornholio's picture

Day is highly regarded as one of the best playcallers in college football, and we're only a couple Games away from the same Day that got Don Brown fired. The coaching staff is all the same, except the line coach. And frankly, removing an elite playcaller and replacing him with somebody not as good seems a lot like - scheming a play for Xavier Johnson instead of throwing to Marv.

Criticism is warranted along with introspection when your team pisses away a Game. But if the offense isn't clicking, you have to start with the QB. Day certainly knows you can't run a swing pass into zone coverage, so when CJ confirms zone coverage at the line, why doesn't he call a zone passing play? Or a TO? Or fake the handoff and bootleg to the boundary? CJ actually gives X a signal which I assume means that the sprint-out is on, but the whole line is run blocking. It's not like Day is calling one play with only one option. CJ has to know that sprint-out is DOA and stick with the run. The bottom line for me is that teams have figured out that CJ isn't as good against quarters coverage, and that's exactly what we saw from MD and UM. He's gunshy and not making correct reads frequently enough to blow this offense open.

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Buckeye71's picture

Your first sentence - just no. Maybe they thought that some time early on. But his play calling all year long was befuddling, and worse than that in the biggest game of the year

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huffdaddy's picture

This was fricking incredible. Thank you.

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Oldcoach76's picture

On defense the easy way is the wrong way. Many of our defensive players step the wrong way and never seem to close gaps or roll to the ball. Does anybody ever throw a damn forearm shiver to separate from blockers. 5 big plays is what happens when you put 8 in the box with others playing man. Even with being more aggressive with stunts we never got to their QB. Again, we became predictable. 

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Buckeye Class of '71's picture

Ramzy: I enjoy reading you. However, this story is waaaayyyyy too long. It's redundant.

Ryan Day seems like a good man. However, 2 more losses in the next 2 years, and he has to go. We can't wait 13 years, like we did with Cooper, to play well against Michigan. Speaking of which, I didn't see "matchup advantages" for the Buckeyes. Before the game, I thought we had many. As the game played out, Donovan Edwards was faster than our safeties. WR Johnson made our DB's look silly. And Michigan had more power on both lines than we did. We had Marvin Harrison, Jr. But McCarthy outplayed Stroud by a lot.

Tell me: What advantage did you see?

Class of ‘71

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Ramzy Nasrallah's picture

Ramzy: I enjoy reading you. However, this story is waaaayyyyy too long. It's redundant.

Good news, part 2 runs tomorrow.

OSUfaninIndiana's picture

So I’m assuming then that Mr. Michigan himself, Jim Harbaugh, lost his first 5 attempts at beating the buckeyes because he just didn’t get the rivalry? Maybe Day is just a terrible in game coach, maybe he’s really good at hiding his emotions, I have no idea, but I think it would be hard not to “get it” at this point. Or hell, maybe he’s like my 76 year old mother who has been rooting for the buckeyes since she was in grade school and still won’t say she hates Michigan, because “she wasn’t raised to hate anyone”. 
 

I will say even my mother was screaming to stop running the stupid wide receiver screens all game, and my dad, who sadly passed 9 days before the Notre Dame game, ALWAYS questioned Strouds toughness. I didn’t agree with him, I quoted stats and yards, he would say “he’s just off”. Seems like they are both right, but…both those issues are fixable for day. I hope. 

Just win baby

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Colortv1967's picture

This was well written and so on point. Again, I was a wait and see guy when Day was given the keys to the Caddie and I’m still waiting. Knowles was great at the mini OSU in a league where defense is optional. Still waiting to see if he can handle the BIG. 

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Buckeyeman95's picture

Panthers if you need a new coach hire Ryan day asap !!! He would be perfect hurry up and Offer him the job.

Caleb nause

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Blockandtackle's picture

I was an offensive coordinator for high schools in Chicago and Baltimore. As you can imagine, it was incredibly fun to scheme for ways to gain the offensive advantage. But, as I gained more experience and got my ass kicked enough, I learned one fundamental truth that every coach must learn at some point: no matter how clever or smart you are, the teams that block and tackle best win the game. 
Saban eventually learned this and has milked this recipe to goat status. You have to physically dominate your opponent, no matter how good your QB and receivers are.  Day and Knowles are too wrapped up in the Bull Shit. Play fundamentally sound and dominate physically on both sides of the ball.  With our talent, if you don’t emphasize the physical nature of the game, you begin to look like… well, Oregon. Ouch!

Great write-up gents.

A joy which death alone can still.

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BurtBucks's picture

Ohio State did physically dominate that game, with the exception of one drive. Michigan scored almost all of their points on blown coverages and unnecessary penalties against nobody receivers. They ran the ball better than any team has run the ball against Michigan all year with a linebacker playing running back. The offensive line didn’t allow a single sack until a late and Ohio State was desperate, and they gave Stroud days to throw for most of the game. Excluding 160 yards on two plays in garbage time, the defense shut down Michigan’s vaunted run game. Those were not due to physical domination, they were due to psychological defeat, which was brought about by Michigan’s success in spite of being outplayed in the trenches. It is maybe the strangest game I’ve ever watched.

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drclau's picture

can't believe we lost to this crap-ass team.  Immediately after, I was pissed of course, but thought, "Man, they were just better than I thought."  Then, I actually thought about it and considered how the game played out and nope, they actually suck.  I mean, they are disciplined for sure, but discipline isn't even close to enough if Ohio State doesn't shit the bed in the 2nd half.  And really, they were pissing the bed in the first half and were still leading.  Such bad coaching.

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Colortv1967's picture

It’s obvious that you and I were watching different games. 

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Eph97's picture

I thought as I was watching "so Day's wrinkle for the game is he thinks he's going to beat UM featuring walkons and backups"? I don't care what his record is next year, if he loses again he must go before he Cooperizes the program and ruins 17 years of Tressel and Meyer's hard work.

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JM's picture

“It's always darkest before the dawn"

When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less.

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SilverHaven's picture

Is this the dawn or the twilight?

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Buckeye71's picture

Absolutely amazing article. You so read my mind and put it all in your article.

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Buckeye_bob's picture

Well I always thought Ramzy Nasrallah was an Idiot, now I know Ramzy Nasrallah is a full of shit moron!! Most of what he wrote is well senseless! What is this guys claim to fame? He as usuals has all the answers. What a joke I remember watching my 1st Osu vs Mich game in 1966 remember hearing how everyone hated Michigan but the Devil won that game. Ok Ramzy give us the formula for beating Michigan? The problem with OSU’s team just like it was with Rich Rod’s is he abandoned the defense in recruiting as I stated 3 yrs ago  and I warned if we don’t stop taking 5Wr’s and start taking 5star defensive linemen which we have zero DT who will play on Sunday . Last year we got a 5star Safety and LB from Ohio but did we do the work to find any Ohio kids who can play DT or OT? Nope. Day is a system coach not a Football Coach, Ohio State is still behind on both lines in Recruiting. 

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Little Mikey's picture

I would remind readers who seem to think Day can’t coach the running game. Most yards ever in one game by a Buckeye running back and most yards ever in one game by a Buckeye freshman- Tre Sermon and Treyveon Henderson. The HC and play caller those two games- Ryan Day. That was our fourth and fifth running backs out there on Saturday. Do I wish we had stayed with more running plays - well yes I wish some things were different when we lose. Should we have relied on the fourth and fifth running backs in THE GAME- well then folks would be second guessing that.

Michael

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Respectfully, that may be. But what has Day done for us lately? Should we have relied on backup RBs? Yes. Trayanum was working. Maybe not pretty, but working. For as bad as the first half was, we still went in w the lead. Hayden; 2 carries? Speculation about ball security [supposedly]…but he praised him after Maryland. Someone has to run the ball. 

I’m sorry, I can’t hear hippies. - Ron Swanson 

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Braxton'sSpinMove's picture

This piece is masterfully done! 10 out of 10…

The mark of excellence, the test of greatness, is consistency

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Dillon G's picture

Perhaps that would have been different if they had incorporated a new concept meant to get the Biletnikoff winner the ball instead of scheming up a swing pass.

How about not doing this as often, all game long. 

#walkaway

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MAVBuck's picture

You have to watch the tape with the volume all the way up so you can hear the stadium living or dying in real time. You have to feel when death warms over or hits peak in-game euphoria.

Masterful and as truthful as ever.

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MaineStrength's picture

Not that I want to help OSU, but my recommendation is do what you see Corum & Morris doing here last year after their loss to UGA.  Don't be MSU and fight after the game.  Don't leave the field immediately and sulk.  Sit and watch and take in the other team celebrating and remember what it looks like and feels like to be on that side.  Be respectful and let it drive you to improve.  This is what you need your players to be like.  You need them to care and want to be there and do so on their own without anyone making them do it.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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BurtBucks's picture

Ramzy, you are the best sports writer I have ever read, bar none. But the danger inherit to your writing ability is that you can make nonsense sound like undeniable truth. As an expression of emotion, this article is fantastic; as an analysis of the game and what actually happened on the field, it is mostly incoherent. Almost everything Ohio State fans on this site have written about the game — myself included — is incoherent. And I think the problem is that we are all fixating on how Ohio State lost rather than looking at how Michigan won. This is the sort of arrogance we have been accusing Michigan fans of for years. This part in particular stood out to me:

“This game is won by the team who imposes the best version of itself while forcing the rival to choke on the reality of what's happening. Defeat and deflate the bodies and minds, because that's the investment required for winning the next meeting, and the one after that. Win the game and become their recurring nightmare. It's not done with trick plays and role players.”

Michigan had exactly one drive where they imposed the best version of themselves on Ohio State, and the biggest play on that drive was a 15 yard pass on third down by a converted linebacker. The drive ended on a pass interference penalty in the back of the end zone, which set up a McCarthy scramble for a TD, Michigan’s first rushing touchdown of the day, their only rushing touchdown that took place while the game was still in doubt.

That drive came on the heels of nearly three quarters of Michigan abandoning their entire offensive identity and relying on their biggest weakness — their downfield passing game — to execute low percentage plays and make something out of nothing. Cornelius Johnson still has fewer yards than Julian Fleming on the season even after gashing Ohio State for 160; he entered that game with fewer yards and touchdowns than Cade Stover. Colston Loveland is a third string true freshman tight end, and his go-ahead touchdown on a deep route was his first of the year; he had fewer yards and touchdowns coming into the game than Jayden Ballard.

So how did Michigan win? By not giving a shit. They didn’t even try to play their game because they knew that they would lose if they did. Instead of trying to be the best version of themselves, they recognized that the best version of themselves wasn’t good enough — because it hadn’t been good enough for the better part of a decade — and instead played like a team with nothing to lose. Success became a possibility because failure was an option. The rivalry has changed; Michigan has been playing with house money ever since they forfeited in 2020.

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Bnglbck's picture

Didn't read the article.

I can't.

If I do, I'm certain Ramzy will sooth my soul.

I don't want to be soothed. I want to fester. I want my hatred of ttun to become infected. I want guile and pus to permeate my being until it boils over enough to infect every ttun fan I come in contact with. I hate ttun forever and ever. Amen.

Victory loves preparation

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