Skull Session: Mike Doss is an Honorary Captain for Ohio State in the Peach Bowl, NFL Execs Are Watching C.J. Stroud and Paris Johnson Jr. and PFF Views the Buckeyes Highly
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McShay has been on the Levis train for a while. His 2022 stats are pedestrian, at best: 65.4%, 2,406 yards (66th best in FBS), 19 TDs (48th), 10 picks (94th), 60.2 QBR (60th), 37 sacks (UK is 123rd in sacks allowed), including eight games with at least three sacks. In his two seasons in Lexington, Levis has thrown for 42 TDs and 22 interceptions, a 2:1 ratio. But he does seem to fit the classic QB mold the NFL has always loved: 6-3, 232…and white. DV me if you want but how else can anyone explain such a lofty ranking amid such underwhelming production?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Apparently, he's the next Josh Allen. That's what the “experts” say because of his arm talent and size. To me, he's more than likely the next Paxton Lynch than he is the next Josh Allen.
Frankly, even if he had exactly the same profile as Josh Allen, it'd still be one hell of a risky pick. Allen's scouting report when he left Wyoming was something like this:
Incredible physical gifts, great arm, prototypical size, occasional flashes of greatness. Lacks consistency of performance, struggled in games against good teams, needs major improvements in accuracy.
And in Allen's case, he dramatically improved his accuracy, managed his drawbacks, and has turned into an NFL star. But then you look back at the past couple decades of NFL drafts and every couple years there's a guy like that. And Allen is basically the only QB with that sort of profile who ended up succeeding; most of them ended up being dudes like Jake Locker where "if only he could fix his accuracy" turned into "...and he never did, what a bust".
Seems like everyone is forgetting about the “SEC Factor.” Levis plays in the SEC, so we have to multiply all of his positive stats by 2 to be able to compare them to QB’s in other conferences. So, his completion percentage in the BiG would actually be 131% and he threw for the equivalent of 4800 yards with 38 “TD Equivalents.” Plus, he was able to pick up more ‘Quality Losses’ than Stroud. All of CJ’s losses reflect badly on him (even when he throws for 400 yards), but all SEC conference losses are (obviously!) Quality Losses.
Kentucky was ranked 7th in September but after the losses piled up the sec hype still claimed beating Kentucky was a good win but now Levis is seen as a great player on a bad team. Whatever the sec narrative needs to be is what it will be.
Your comment on certain representation might be because the ratio is high coming out of college as well. And the starters at that position in the NFL are almost 3 times as much as in the general population. I don't think they care if their QB is chartreuse as long as they can do what they want them to do.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Will Levi’s has benefited greatly from Josh Allen. Their college numbers are very similar so the assumption, I guess, is that any team could mold him into Allen 2.0. I don’t see it, but I’m just a fan of football and don’t make my money evaluating talent.
Mike Doss is one of the greatest Buckeyes to ever play IMO. Easy top 10 all time. Maybe he can bring some that winner mojo with him.
I kind of have a feeling that one or two unsung heroes will impact the outcome of this game. I just hope these heroes are on our side. Allright Buckeyes, this is it. Make it count.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Wasn't Levis at Penn State and then transferred to UK? Not sure what happened to him in Lexington, but I can't see him as being the first QB off the board. If nothing else, it does say something about the PSU coaching staff.
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Oft-forgotten fact: Justin Fields was originally committed to Penn State, and after he flipped to Georgia, Levis was the QB Franklin signed to replace him. Coming out of high school, he was the 52nd ranked QB in the 2018 class, behind Matthew Baldwin, Joe Milton, and Spencer Petras. Fields is in his second year as an NFL QB but Levis could end up being drafted higher. That possibility is almost incomprehensible to me.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
so championships don't matter anymore at OSU only how many players will get drafted to the NFL ? sounds like YOU KNOW WHO when they were losing to OSU every year ....
And I'm convinced that draft stock is the only thing CJ is playing for...if a crack at Ichigan to redeem in the eyes of the fan base works out icing on a cake but not sure he cares. Why do I say that...couple different comments from him all centered around "it's my body out there" and " you people have no idea what players with injuries go through...". All true but they stack up to give an impression that he feels a little jaded with the fan base and is playing to work more money...we really don't matter in the end. Just my opinion....meanwhile Kirby is down south beating the living hell out of his team every week ( bloody Tuesdays) to get them looking at any game as less work. Gonna need a lot of anger to counter that.
That was 95 since the year 2000. But your point is taken. A good follow up for the off season will be how many of each states 5 stars stayed home vs were recruited out of state? CA, TX, GA, FL are clearly on the losing end of that question (I would think).
Yeah I had to read it again. Since 2000 but it still shows the amount of talent available soon to the B1G when the LA teams arrive. They can play for OSU and still stay in conference. That ought to mean something.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
That’s 95 over the past two decades, but as you mentioned it’s the most from any state. Because California is the most populated state and has a large sports media market, some of those are probably a bit inflated just based on more exposure in high school. I would be interested to know how many do well in college and make it to the NFL. The PAC12 has the worst showing with teams selected to the playoffs.
Starbucks is overrated because the only way to make that coffee palatable is to add a ton of stuff to it (which adds $$$ to the price), and a lot of people have convinced themselves it tastes good. Coffee by itself should taste fine without adding flavor shots and whatnot.
Chick-Fil-A sells chicken sandwiches, and the prices are not all that different from any other fast food restaurant--the salads are pricey, though why anyone would get a salad there is hard to understand. And it tastes pretty good and the staff seems to be pretty friendly. Usually people who like to take shots at Chick-Fil-A are due to other reasons that have little to do with the actual product, though there is probably someone out there that genuinely dislikes the food there. Haven't run into too many of those though.
I agree, Alex. Other than the “friendliness factor,” at Chik-fil-a, another area they are good at is cleanliness. I don’t hardly ever go into the mass market hamburger joints anymore, and a big reason is because they rarely ever clean off the tables throughout the day.
When I have to ask employees for a wet rag to clean my table off my table, because they’re all dirty, I have to ask myself, “self, if the tables and bathrooms are THAT dirty, what must it look like behind the counter?” I also witnessed an employee at McDonalds walk in to the men’s room, do his business while I was washing my hands, and he walked right out behind me without washing his hands; the same hands that prolly prepare my burger.
No más.
As you get older, three things happen: The first is your memory goes, and I can't remember the other two.
For me, Chick-Fil-A is over-rated not because they taste bad. Hell, they taste good. I like their sandwiches. What I don't get is all the people (my two kids included) who think that it is some of the best food on the planet. And I don't have to get it, free country, their opinion to have, and all that. But in my opinion, they are over-rated. A solid 7, not the 12 people want me to believe.
This speaks to me. The dangers of word-of-mouth... and while we are on the topic, Raising Cane's is way overrated, too. THere is no fast food that goes beyond an 8 for me on a scale of 10.
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
Love me some Chick-fil-A. I teach a morning class once a month at Ohio University Dublin and bring in Chick-fil-A for the whole class...and they show up early.
Overrated means a non-crispy, bland chicken breast that is absolute trash. Fried chicken should be crispy! I will never understand why people like it. The sauce is good, though.
Fast food is pretty F-ing gross across the board. Extremely highly processed, engineered to be hyper-palatable, expensive, and creates tons of consumer waste (i.e. cups, bags, boxes, napkins, straws, etc.)
Do yourself a favor and eat less of it. It'll likely slim your waistline and fatten your wallet!
Two of our upcoming opponent’s players are on that NFL prospect list. Would be nice to see their thumbnails too (no subscription to SI) in the article as well. Would think it pertinent is all.
Georgia will come out and play like their hair is on fire, and believe it or not, have a chip on their shoulder. I’d say let them overplay like Arkansas did, but they seem to have more discipline than that. Go Bucks! Beat that Dawg ass.
I think the ??'s about CJ are warranted, as it takes more than arm talent to be a franchise QB in the League, but I believe he has shown glimpses of future greatness. The arm is indeed legendary, as is his general football knowledge of knowing where to go w the ball and reading defenses. His pocket mobility is good, but reluctance to get yards with his feet is a limitation. Even the nFL is succumbing to the mobile QB in recent years.
This game will be a bellwether for Stroud. If he holds up and finds ways to win the game, his stock will rise. If we leads us to the CFP champs, all the writers will do a 180 and pick him as the #1 QB off the board. You need to win all the games you should and a few you shouldn't to stand out to pro scouts. That's a high bar with a ton of talent around you like at tOSU.
There's a good correlation with a state's number of highly recruited players and its number of people, and regional interest with New England near zero and the South out-sized.
State
Pop Rank
5-Stars
California
1
95
Texas
2
103
Florida
3
125
New York
4
7
Pennsylvania
5
24
Illinois
6
15
Ohio
7
28
Georgia
8
70
North Carolina
9
22
Michigan
10
15
New Jersey
11
19
Virginia
12
24
And then also...
Alabama
24
37
Louisiana
25
31
Urban continued Tressel's Ohio recruiting and then added esp. Florida and Texas.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
"says one NFL exec" - So he likes Stroud better than Fields but less than Young and Levis who are a smaller (Young) and much less accomplished (Levis) version of Fields... when will these guys begin to admit they have no frickin' idea who can read an NFL defense and translate to success in the League?
"says one NFL exec" - So he likes Stroud better than Fields but less than Young and Levis who are a smaller (Young) and much less accomplished (Levis) version of Fields... when will these guys begin to admit they have no frickin' idea who can read an NFL defense and translate to success in the League?
It is not an exact science. Nobody knows how players transition to the pro level. There have been hundreds of busts by all teams. It happens.
Whewwww I'm struggling to pinpoint CJ's signature win or moment although I'd draft him in a heartbeat
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I my POV, the Rose Bowl last year was pretty impressive. If he and the rest of the OSU offense play like that, I think we have a real shot to win it all. But not if they play that slow, Muhammad Ali-type, rope-a-dope football. TEMPO. CJ plays best when he plays fast.
As you get older, three things happen: The first is your memory goes, and I can't remember the other two.
That graphic on the 5* players surprises me a bit.
Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho... Those states breed giant, corn-fed, monstrous human beings (see Brock Lesnar) pretty routinely just based off the "living off the land" sort of lifestyle a lot of folks in that region subscribe too...
Just figured one or two 5 star football players would've been born and bred from that lifestyle.
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I think there are other factors at play. Temperature being a key one. Population density being the other.
For temperature, there are just fewer opportunities for playing outdoors. You see it all across the north, with Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan also underrepresented. The NE gets the double whammy of cold and lack of interest (comparatively). You even see it dip into the colder windswept plains states (NE, IA, KS). Even Colorado doesn't have enough based on its population.
For population density, think of the logistical challenges of getting to a football camp for top skilled players. In Florida, Texas, California, etc. there are millions upon millions of people in a few hours drive of a variety of football camps and training opportunities for middle school and high school players. In the states you mention...well, it is a 19 hour drive from Sioux Falls to Boise. The spaces are vast, and make it harder to concentrate talent. Iron sharpening iron and all that, that kid who might develop into a 5 star from MT just doesn't run into as much competition when he's young. As such, he might eventually be great, but he also is less likely to run into talent that causes him to raise his game before they are handing out stars.
That's a good point and also worth pointing out that region also produces some highly touted D1 wrestling talent (again, see Brock Lesnar) so that makes sense. Feed them giant cuts of beef, get them on a mat, and let them maul one another since they can't go out in the frigid temps.
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5 star is as much about the talent they play against as the talent they have.
A really good player from Wyoming isn't going to get the same attention as the same player in Florida because he will get less exposure and no one will be sure how good he is because of the talent he faces.
Would be curious to see this graphic with pro bowl (earned) instead of 5 star (perceived).
“I like him better than I did [Justin] Fields,” says one NFC exec, “but he’s still third in the group [behind Alabama’s Bryce Young and Kentucky’s Will Levis] for me.”
I am fired up that Mike Doss is the Buckeye’s Honorary Captain for the Peach Bowl. He’s a leader in many respects certainly in the locker room. The Buckeyes need him there on Saturday in the locker room and on the sideline. Doss and Donnie Nickey were Senior Team Captains on the 2002 National Championship Team. Doss’s presence will help this team on Saturday.
Mike Doss was a winner in high school leading Canton McKinley to a state title. And then a National Title at OSU. He is a great example for this years Buckeyes to follow! Go Bucks!
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FWIW, Terrelle Pryor was not an Ohio 5 star — he was from PA.
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Probably thinks that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor too…
Beat me by a few minutes. Even double checked to make sure I wasn't miss remembering.
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An NFL scout has Will Levis rated higher than Stroud as a draft prospect???
Boy, has that guy had a little too much holiday cheer!
Yeah, that was odd to me too. Also, his comment on Justin Fields was questionable.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
2+2=Buckeye haters. Simple math.
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Same scout probably liked Zach Wilson better than Fields. Sometimes those guys are clueless … Will Levis come on.
Questionable? Just bizarre.
Sometimes i wonder if these writers dont stretch things to create more hype.
McShay has been on the Levis train for a while. His 2022 stats are pedestrian, at best: 65.4%, 2,406 yards (66th best in FBS), 19 TDs (48th), 10 picks (94th), 60.2 QBR (60th), 37 sacks (UK is 123rd in sacks allowed), including eight games with at least three sacks. In his two seasons in Lexington, Levis has thrown for 42 TDs and 22 interceptions, a 2:1 ratio. But he does seem to fit the classic QB mold the NFL has always loved: 6-3, 232…and white. DV me if you want but how else can anyone explain such a lofty ranking amid such underwhelming production?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
He reminds me of a poor man's Sam Darnold. Will be a bust in the NFL.
Big B
Did UK's Lewis do well in spite of a porous O-line (123rd)?
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
I thought they had one of the best O line coaches in the country? That statement came out when we lost that big tackle from Indiana to them.
Apparently, he's the next Josh Allen. That's what the “experts” say because of his arm talent and size. To me, he's more than likely the next Paxton Lynch than he is the next Josh Allen.
Yeah... Poor man's Josh Allen. Even though he was at Wyoming he had some throws that made you go "Wow!" Plus he's 6'5" and can run well for a big man.
Levis is much more Tim Tebow with a little better release... maybe?
Frankly, even if he had exactly the same profile as Josh Allen, it'd still be one hell of a risky pick. Allen's scouting report when he left Wyoming was something like this:
And in Allen's case, he dramatically improved his accuracy, managed his drawbacks, and has turned into an NFL star. But then you look back at the past couple decades of NFL drafts and every couple years there's a guy like that. And Allen is basically the only QB with that sort of profile who ended up succeeding; most of them ended up being dudes like Jake Locker where "if only he could fix his accuracy" turned into "...and he never did, what a bust".
Seems like everyone is forgetting about the “SEC Factor.” Levis plays in the SEC, so we have to multiply all of his positive stats by 2 to be able to compare them to QB’s in other conferences. So, his completion percentage in the BiG would actually be 131% and he threw for the equivalent of 4800 yards with 38 “TD Equivalents.” Plus, he was able to pick up more ‘Quality Losses’ than Stroud. All of CJ’s losses reflect badly on him (even when he throws for 400 yards), but all SEC conference losses are (obviously!) Quality Losses.
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Kentucky was ranked 7th in September but after the losses piled up the sec hype still claimed beating Kentucky was a good win but now Levis is seen as a great player on a bad team. Whatever the sec narrative needs to be is what it will be.
Your comment on certain representation might be because the ratio is high coming out of college as well. And the starters at that position in the NFL are almost 3 times as much as in the general population. I don't think they care if their QB is chartreuse as long as they can do what they want them to do.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Our Browns are the only clueless franchise.
#walkaway
*checks notes-It does appear so.
That should say “aren’t”.
#walkaway
Saw that on Mel Kiper's board last night on espn. Not only higher than Stroud - but #1 - with Bryce Young 2 and Stroud 3.
Will Levi’s has benefited greatly from Josh Allen. Their college numbers are very similar so the assumption, I guess, is that any team could mold him into Allen 2.0. I don’t see it, but I’m just a fan of football and don’t make my money evaluating talent.
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Mike Doss is one of the greatest Buckeyes to ever play IMO. Easy top 10 all time. Maybe he can bring some that winner mojo with him.
I kind of have a feeling that one or two unsung heroes will impact the outcome of this game. I just hope these heroes are on our side. Allright Buckeyes, this is it. Make it count.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Perfect choice. Nobody can ever call him soft.
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3 time 1st team All-American. He could lay the wood. People knew when Doss hit them.
mtrotb
Yes. Yes they could. Love that man.
OSU ALUM
He also returned for his senior season.
Morning.
Wasn't Levis at Penn State and then transferred to UK? Not sure what happened to him in Lexington, but I can't see him as being the first QB off the board. If nothing else, it does say something about the PSU coaching staff.
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At one point midway through this season, some people had Will Levis in the running for a Heisman. Then Levis came back down to earth.
I cannot see Levis being drafted in the first three rounds.
A bad day on the water beats a good day at work.
Levis has all the intangibles the league looks for.
Because he was on a UK team with low talent is actually a plus he looked as good as he did.
The projection when he’s in the league where the talent is even, they think he’s a better player than he was in college.
CJ & Bryce have better talent just about every game - it actually hurts their case.
Think Leinert vs Cutler, Baker vs Josh Allen.
There’s always that pesky LSU Joe Burrow though that throws that argument out so what do I know?!
How much are you willing to wager on that?
History says Drew Allar will have his best season next year then all down hill from there.
Oft-forgotten fact: Justin Fields was originally committed to Penn State, and after he flipped to Georgia, Levis was the QB Franklin signed to replace him. Coming out of high school, he was the 52nd ranked QB in the 2018 class, behind Matthew Baldwin, Joe Milton, and Spencer Petras. Fields is in his second year as an NFL QB but Levis could end up being drafted higher. That possibility is almost incomprehensible to me.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
That is wild...
so championships don't matter anymore at OSU only how many players will get drafted to the NFL ? sounds like YOU KNOW WHO when they were losing to OSU every year ....
And I'm convinced that draft stock is the only thing CJ is playing for...if a crack at Ichigan to redeem in the eyes of the fan base works out icing on a cake but not sure he cares. Why do I say that...couple different comments from him all centered around "it's my body out there" and " you people have no idea what players with injuries go through...". All true but they stack up to give an impression that he feels a little jaded with the fan base and is playing to work more money...we really don't matter in the end. Just my opinion....meanwhile Kirby is down south beating the living hell out of his team every week ( bloody Tuesdays) to get them looking at any game as less work. Gonna need a lot of anger to counter that.
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Interesting that California had 95 of the 5 star recruits this year. They will be attached to the B1G very soon. This could get interesting.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
That was 95 since the year 2000. But your point is taken. A good follow up for the off season will be how many of each states 5 stars stayed home vs were recruited out of state? CA, TX, GA, FL are clearly on the losing end of that question (I would think).
Steelybuck54
Yeah I had to read it again. Since 2000 but it still shows the amount of talent available soon to the B1G when the LA teams arrive. They can play for OSU and still stay in conference. That ought to mean something.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
That’s 95 over the past two decades, but as you mentioned it’s the most from any state. Because California is the most populated state and has a large sports media market, some of those are probably a bit inflated just based on more exposure in high school. I would be interested to know how many do well in college and make it to the NFL. The PAC12 has the worst showing with teams selected to the playoffs.
Shatinkycat1
Uh Texas and Florida both had over 100.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
That's true but they aren't future B1G members.
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Here's hoping the entire
defenseteam has Tommy Eichenberg attitude on Saturday.PS Chic Fil A is overrated. There. I said it.
Fuck Michigan
It sits right up there with Panera Bread or Starbucks for overrated expensive upscale fast food joints that chicks love to waste their money on.
Urban Cowbuck
Starbucks is overrated because the only way to make that coffee palatable is to add a ton of stuff to it (which adds $$$ to the price), and a lot of people have convinced themselves it tastes good. Coffee by itself should taste fine without adding flavor shots and whatnot.
Chick-Fil-A sells chicken sandwiches, and the prices are not all that different from any other fast food restaurant--the salads are pricey, though why anyone would get a salad there is hard to understand. And it tastes pretty good and the staff seems to be pretty friendly. Usually people who like to take shots at Chick-Fil-A are due to other reasons that have little to do with the actual product, though there is probably someone out there that genuinely dislikes the food there. Haven't run into too many of those though.
I agree, Alex. Other than the “friendliness factor,” at Chik-fil-a, another area they are good at is cleanliness. I don’t hardly ever go into the mass market hamburger joints anymore, and a big reason is because they rarely ever clean off the tables throughout the day.
When I have to ask employees for a wet rag to clean my table off my table, because they’re all dirty, I have to ask myself, “self, if the tables and bathrooms are THAT dirty, what must it look like behind the counter?” I also witnessed an employee at McDonalds walk in to the men’s room, do his business while I was washing my hands, and he walked right out behind me without washing his hands; the same hands that prolly prepare my burger.
No más.
As you get older, three things happen: The first is your memory goes, and I can't remember the other two.
For me, Chick-Fil-A is over-rated not because they taste bad. Hell, they taste good. I like their sandwiches. What I don't get is all the people (my two kids included) who think that it is some of the best food on the planet. And I don't have to get it, free country, their opinion to have, and all that. But in my opinion, they are over-rated. A solid 7, not the 12 people want me to believe.
Maybe when the service is awesome and served with a smile, the food tastes better?? It's the only thing I can figure.
As you get older, three things happen: The first is your memory goes, and I can't remember the other two.
This. The food isn't BAD. It's just not GREAT.
But their service is 2nd to none. Which is half the battle I guess.
Fuck Michigan
This speaks to me. The dangers of word-of-mouth... and while we are on the topic, Raising Cane's is way overrated, too. THere is no fast food that goes beyond an 8 for me on a scale of 10.
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
you, my friend, are either clueless or born without tastebuds
Faster, tougher, and more violent...
So are you and your comments. There. I said it.
Seriously, I love Chik Fil A. Their restaurants are popping up all over. Their service is second to none. But I reckon they're not for everybody.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Love me some Chick-fil-A. I teach a morning class once a month at Ohio University Dublin and bring in Chick-fil-A for the whole class...and they show up early.
Interesting signature line
Man… my boss only brings in donuts, on occasion, for our weekly meetings.
As you get older, three things happen: The first is your memory goes, and I can't remember the other two.
I work from home; if I don’t bring the treats, I get nuthin’.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Their service is top-notch.
All Their food tastes like...chicken.
Victory loves preparation
I really like their quick service from fresh-faced young people with happy smiles.
LOL. Very funny, Bnglbck, about all the food tastes like…
Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall. (F. Scott Fitzgerald)
If by overrated you mean it’s the greatest chicken sandwich ever then I agree.
Overrated means a non-crispy, bland chicken breast that is absolute trash. Fried chicken should be crispy! I will never understand why people like it. The sauce is good, though.
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Not a big chicken or fast food person
But if I am eating fast food chicken - it is the only choice.
Kibbey
Fast food is pretty F-ing gross across the board. Extremely highly processed, engineered to be hyper-palatable, expensive, and creates tons of consumer waste (i.e. cups, bags, boxes, napkins, straws, etc.)
Do yourself a favor and eat less of it. It'll likely slim your waistline and fatten your wallet!
I am totally on board with your 1st sentence!
Beat dawgs!!
Go Bucks!!!
David Peck
And who back footed into the CFP? LOL
Wisconsin a few years back?
Why not PSU?
Two of our upcoming opponent’s players are on that NFL prospect list. Would be nice to see their thumbnails too (no subscription to SI) in the article as well. Would think it pertinent is all.
tbdfitl
Georgia will come out and play like their hair is on fire, and believe it or not, have a chip on their shoulder. I’d say let them overplay like Arkansas did, but they seem to have more discipline than that. Go Bucks! Beat that Dawg ass.
#walkaway
I think the ??'s about CJ are warranted, as it takes more than arm talent to be a franchise QB in the League, but I believe he has shown glimpses of future greatness. The arm is indeed legendary, as is his general football knowledge of knowing where to go w the ball and reading defenses. His pocket mobility is good, but reluctance to get yards with his feet is a limitation. Even the nFL is succumbing to the mobile QB in recent years.
This game will be a bellwether for Stroud. If he holds up and finds ways to win the game, his stock will rise. If we leads us to the CFP champs, all the writers will do a 180 and pick him as the #1 QB off the board. You need to win all the games you should and a few you shouldn't to stand out to pro scouts. That's a high bar with a ton of talent around you like at tOSU.
Steelybuck54
I hate the dreaded double post.
Steelybuck54
There's a good correlation with a state's number of highly recruited players and its number of people, and regional interest with New England near zero and the South out-sized.
Urban continued Tressel's Ohio recruiting and then added esp. Florida and Texas.
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By 2030, North Carolina and Georgia are both projected to pass Ohio in total population.
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I'd gather from this data that Georgia produces by far the most 5*'s per capita, who'da thunk it?
Actually it is Alabama. 37 out of 5.07M vs. Georgia's 70 out of 10.91M
True, but almost they're the same.
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"says one NFL exec" - So he likes Stroud better than Fields but less than Young and Levis who are a smaller (Young) and much less accomplished (Levis) version of Fields... when will these guys begin to admit they have no frickin' idea who can read an NFL defense and translate to success in the League?
It is not an exact science. Nobody knows how players transition to the pro level. There have been hundreds of busts by all teams. It happens.
Whewwww I'm struggling to pinpoint CJ's signature win or moment although I'd draft him in a heartbeat
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Be patient. His 2 biggest wins are about to happen
I my POV, the Rose Bowl last year was pretty impressive. If he and the rest of the OSU offense play like that, I think we have a real shot to win it all. But not if they play that slow, Muhammad Ali-type, rope-a-dope football. TEMPO. CJ plays best when he plays fast.
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That graphic on the 5* players surprises me a bit.
Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho... Those states breed giant, corn-fed, monstrous human beings (see Brock Lesnar) pretty routinely just based off the "living off the land" sort of lifestyle a lot of folks in that region subscribe too...
Just figured one or two 5 star football players would've been born and bred from that lifestyle.
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I think there are other factors at play. Temperature being a key one. Population density being the other.
For temperature, there are just fewer opportunities for playing outdoors. You see it all across the north, with Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan also underrepresented. The NE gets the double whammy of cold and lack of interest (comparatively). You even see it dip into the colder windswept plains states (NE, IA, KS). Even Colorado doesn't have enough based on its population.
For population density, think of the logistical challenges of getting to a football camp for top skilled players. In Florida, Texas, California, etc. there are millions upon millions of people in a few hours drive of a variety of football camps and training opportunities for middle school and high school players. In the states you mention...well, it is a 19 hour drive from Sioux Falls to Boise. The spaces are vast, and make it harder to concentrate talent. Iron sharpening iron and all that, that kid who might develop into a 5 star from MT just doesn't run into as much competition when he's young. As such, he might eventually be great, but he also is less likely to run into talent that causes him to raise his game before they are handing out stars.
That's a good point and also worth pointing out that region also produces some highly touted D1 wrestling talent (again, see Brock Lesnar) so that makes sense. Feed them giant cuts of beef, get them on a mat, and let them maul one another since they can't go out in the frigid temps.
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5 star is as much about the talent they play against as the talent they have.
A really good player from Wyoming isn't going to get the same attention as the same player in Florida because he will get less exposure and no one will be sure how good he is because of the talent he faces.
Would be curious to see this graphic with pro bowl (earned) instead of 5 star (perceived).
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I sometimes like spicy chicken, but more so on wings, rather than in sandwich form. Thanks for the info.
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I am fired up that Mike Doss is the Buckeye’s Honorary Captain for the Peach Bowl. He’s a leader in many respects certainly in the locker room. The Buckeyes need him there on Saturday in the locker room and on the sideline. Doss and Donnie Nickey were Senior Team Captains on the 2002 National Championship Team. Doss’s presence will help this team on Saturday.
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Mike Doss was a winner in high school leading Canton McKinley to a state title. And then a National Title at OSU. He is a great example for this years Buckeyes to follow! Go Bucks!