This is where Urban was a master. His interview yesterday was spot on. The biggest factor in the game will be how motivated the Buckeyes are. How bad do they want it? If the Bucks really are pissed off (we’ve heard them talk about it, we need to see it), if they want it more than Georgia, they absolutely can bring a Natty back to Ohio.
"how bad you want it" won't help against a better team. urban and the bucks found that out against clemson in '16. "wanting it" and being willing/able TO DO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO GET THE WIN are 2 different things.
I am SO tired of the talk. I believed it with Urban. I don't trust or believe it with Coach Day. I know the record the narrative is that his teams fold and don't fight less a few players.
Humiliation is a great motivator. I agree but OSU was humiliated in 2021 in Ann Arbor but the next year they were humiliated again in Columbus. If Ohio State is blown out by UGA on Saturday, I believe it will do great harm to the brand that will take time to repair.
Hopefully this team can reverse this trend. I've been a fan since Woody and Bo, and I love the Ohio State Buckeyes as much as anyone. But, it's time to draw the line in the sand and say No More.
I'm confident that the Buckeyes can beat Georgia. The talent levels are relatively even. This is maybe the last game of the season and the last game for the seniors and those entering the draft. You can win this game. Win Buckeyes!
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Losing too many big games in a row is a difficult trend to reverse. Look at Georgia. They had great teams in the past that lost the biggest games that mattered. They finally got over the hump last year and won it all. If the Buckeyes lose a close game that's ok by me. Just make it respectable.
Maybe I'm still reeling from the last 2 Michigan games and that Bama title game, I don't know. Let's hope for the best.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Bro, with Day, we are 45-5 and made 2 outa last 3 CFPs. We are literally a wet dream for all but 2 other schools.
I view it as Day had his 2 worse games at the wrong time, just bad luck. He made the staff changes from last year, Be optimistic, It all evens out, look at Kirby Smarts tenure.
In my original post I stated that I am confident that the Buckeyes can beat Georgia. I just don't want to see a lopsided loss. That is what none of us want. I hope you're right about it all evens out. We'll see in a couple of days.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
oklahoma has basically the same record and no one looked at them as a legitimate contender. they were the sacrificial lamb who got curb stomped by the tougher team. Harbaugh has as many CFP titles and BIG championships as Day and he was left for dead after the 2020 season. with the resources and the talent this team has, just getting into the CFP should be the bare minimum.
oklahoma has basically the same record and no one looked at them as a legitimate contender.
Under Day, the team is 45-5 with 3 playoff appearances in 4 years, including a championship game appearance. The 2019 loss to Clemson in the semifinals is one of the playoff classics The 2020 semifinal was a win for Ohio State
During the same time period Day has been the HC, Oklahoma is 38-12, with two blow out losses in the playoff semifinals.
Some of you “fans” hate your team so much that you’re blinded by the success. Your self-induced hysteria helps feed a false narrative that Ohio State is a joke. Potential recruits are influenced by this trash. It’s bazaar a fan would act this way.
45-5 is a good point, Shtinkycat.
I think we see 0-2 and worry about 2-10-1.
How many Cooper teams were top 5, and even undefeated 3 times, but lost to Michigan?
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
I guess, SilverHaven, this is why we shouldn't consider this year's loss to ttun the same as the Cooper years. The maize and blow are actually "good," undefeated this year. It was difficult to hear all of the hoopla going into this year's game, especially being in C-bus, getting stomped (by the end of the 4th qt.), and giving them back to back losses.
Taking out this year, which was the aftermath of Lincoln Riley abandoning ship and taking all their best players, and the record comparison is 34-4 vs 32-6. If you take out Ryan Day's interim record in 2018, the comparison is 31-4 to 32-6. Both teams have an embarrassing blowout loss vs one of the best teams of the last 20 years in the playoffs. Oklahoma was either 3-0 or 2-1 vs its rival depending on who you define as its rival, UT or Okla St. We were 1-1 against our rival and have a blowout win in the playoffs. I would give the edge to us slightly but it's not like the two programs are not comparable before this season.
KCAlum, that’s manipulation the stats to get the desired equivalent comparison. You casualty throw out the blowout losses in the playoffs, but don’t mention the fact the Ohio State’s loss was in the national championship game and Oklahoma’s was in the semifinals. You make no mention of how on the national platform Ohio State fared well in both semifinal games, unlike Oklahoma. You also disregard this year because it helps lower the numbers for the Day comparison, but the fact Ohio State’s only loss this year is to the current #2 team goes to show that Ohio State is still a top program.
oklahoma isn't 0-2 vs michigan the last 2 years. and day also has a blowout loss to bama a couple years ago in title game. beating a bunch of "bad to average" teams doesn't make up for that.
btw - it's BIZARRE - NOT "bazaar". "bazaar" is a kind of flea market where different goods are sold.
First, football became a facilities battle and Miami did not have vast resources to lead in that battle. Ohio State is one of the schools that competed well by committing vast resources to improve facilities.
Second, Miami became a coaching carousel while expecting each sequential coach to return the program to the top of the heap. College football is inherently difficult with roster turnover due to student eligibility. Difficulty increases significantly with coaching turnover that disrupts recruitment every few years and reduces credibility with prospective recruits, coaches, and staff. Following the “fire Day” crowd at this point would likely lead Ohio State to join Miami as a member of the “has beens.”
Time and change will surely show how firm thy friendship, O HI O.
Smart at Georgia for 7 seasons. Won the division 5 times. So not every year. Won the conference 2 times. So not even half of the time. Made the cfp 3 times. Finally turned it into a national champion after losing in the sec champ game and backdooring into the cfp. Other than the NC, he was similar and arguably doing worse than day at osu til then. He was under a lot of pressure before last season but nobody in Georgia wanted him fired or thought the program was in trouble or being setback. It took a little more patience to get where they are. We should learn from that lesson.
Some of y’all need to get out side of the Beltway known as 270. There are three elite team in college football, Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State, and every other team is trying to get to that level. All the ttun losses have done is make The Game a rivalry again after 20 year’s of OSU domination. At some point they had to win a couple very now and then.
Go Buck beat the Dawgs.
Without winners there wouldn't be any gosh darn civilization. We make no apologies for winning or for aiming our entire program toward that goal. - Woody Hayes
dont think the stench of that 31-0 loss to Clemson in the CFP a few years ago has worn off even after all these years. if we get humiliated this weekend by Georgia, we are going to fall into the oklahoma category. good enough to get to the playoff, but gets boat raced once we are in it.
You're making his point for him BH7, Oklahoma got smoked multiple years in a row.... and look where they are now. Lost their HC to a better program, and weren't really even in the CFP conversation this year at all.
Another bad loss on national TV on Saturday will only cement the idea in some minds that, OSU just can't get it done on the biggest stages.
Give me a fricken break dude, the only people who look back at that game are Clemson fan boys and so called Ohio State fans living in the past. That game which was prior to the CFP is shit stain that means nothing. Catch up a little man, we won the whole damm thing the first year of the playoff.
Without winners there wouldn't be any gosh darn civilization. We make no apologies for winning or for aiming our entire program toward that goal. - Woody Hayes
Losing is a great motivator IF it pisses you off, but doesn't humiliate you. I put much of our last loss on coaching and preparation, not being outplayed. It sounds like the Buckeyes are pissed off- time to find out if coaching and character rises to the top. If it does, we clearly have the talent and team to beat Georgia, but it will likely be a hard fought game. I think we are more likely than them to win comfortably (14 points or more) due to our ability to score in bunches, but if they win the lines, they win, period.
If we play like our last loss, it puts us 0-3 in must win" games and will have an impact on team morale and probably recruiting as well. We aren't winning as many Lineman recruiting battles as we need to to compete at the top 2 level and are falling off on corners and Linebackers a bit as well. K Combs had a great run on corners a few years back and we have t been particularly close since. If we don't up our recruiting game, the only thing that might save us is the 12 team playoff that will hurt the top teams the most as several top 10 teams will be able to stake a claim to " perennial playoff team" and draw NFL talent. In that pool I expect us to drop a bit, but GA and AL to drop more as it'll be tougher to stack 5 stars on a roster. Pay for play is about to become the coin of the realm unless the NCAA or FED steps in and regulates college sports; which I believe it (Fed) will do, since the NCAA I has lost its last shred of competence.
I hear you Brute, it's just that they make a living off of making bad situations worse and this is becoming a bad situation no one else seems willing to clean up- perfect for the government to say "and we're here to help".
I've learned that if you don't go into it with high hopes, you won't be let down...and that's how I am going to approach this game on Saturday..until this team can prove otherwise, the last image I have of this team is chasing the wolverines all over that beautiful scarlet and green turf..
Off subject a little, but I was watching the Oregon/UNC game last night and I must say, that Maye kid has a freaking rocket and spins a beautiful ball! And he's only a RS freshman?!?
I'm the same way Wez. High hopes get dashed too often. Better to be pleasantly surprised with a win than expecting one. OSU can beat Georgia. We'll see. Go Bucks!
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
People are down voting his comment because it comes off sanctimonious when the real issue is reading comprehension. OP never said he "wasn't here for his team." Some on here seem to think that unless you predict a 45-0 Ohio State win, you aren't a real fan. My question is, isn't that one of the main reasons we can't stand a certain ESPN analyst who played for TTUN (you know, always picking them to win every game)? Always claiming things are rosy when reality suggests this might not be the case doesn't make one less of a fan. I am predicting a 17 point UGA win, but I made big plans with friends at a watch party, won't miss one play of the game, and can't stop thinking about it. I suspect OP has some of the same feelings I do (just a guess from his post), but I am not going to hint he isn't a real fan like Seven did (and yes, that is what he hinted at). In case you are wondering, he got one of my down votes for the reason I explained here...
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
I'm one of the upvoters. I agree that regardless of where we are, that I would hope that folks still support the school and teams, regardless of what we think of any aspect of them, per squad, per roster, and per staff directory.
I survived The Cooper Years. This is easy in comparison.
Hey look, it’s General Sherman. The “gentleman” that torched the homes of women and children (even if they didn’t align with the Confederacy) and forced them to live outside as part of his military strategy. May he rest in hell.
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem.
Ohio St is 0-3 in championship level games since 2020. Last win was Clemson. Georgia used one loss to Bama to change the script. It's about time the Buckeyes used those scars to recenter the program as well.
1.Upset Georgia and finish by beating ttun for the championship.
2.Fold and get crushed by georgia
3. Beat georgia but get beat again by ttun in the championship.
If it is scenario 1, it will go down as one of the most magical seasons in buckeye history. However, if it is either scenario's 2 or 3 it will take time to recover and get rid of the stench. coaches will be on the hot seat (even day) and you will see more transfers and the recruiting will take a pretty big hit. The pressure is squarely on day and this team. there is no house money to play with.
My DV stalker. It’s cool though. You should see the inside of their head. It’s spacious - I’ve got tons of room to spread out and enjoy myself. And, I don’t even have to clean up when I’m done.
The exact Bet I have over on Fanduel! Odds are +1200
There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” -Miyamoto Musashi
Let me be perfectly clear...if OSU is to win the title, I want it to be against Michigan. That would be scenario number one.
But the absolute nightmare scenario for Michigan has to be losing to TCU then seeing OSU man handle TCU in the title game, leaving them with only their regular season title to keep them warm over the winter.
I would love it so very much if Michigan's best season since 1997 ended in Ohio State being crowned the national champion. The amount of copium they would shoot into their veins about how the playoffs are flawed, the best team didn't win, they didn't deserve it etc would be too much for me to bear.
Beating Michigan would be preferred. Forcing them to watch from the sidelines, powerless to prevent another OSU national title would be a very, VERY close second.
Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.
LOL Check what playing with house money really means.
You are blowing smoke where there is no fire. Honestly, research and come back and tell us other HCs better than 45-5 (90%) over last 3 years. Then add into that list, those who made CFP 2 outa last 3 years (67%).
He’s lost the only game that matters two years in a row. That’s the only statistic that matters, you can type 45-5 another 100 times, no one cares about beating Rutgers and Indiana.
Unless he wins every big game he ever coaches you’ll have to deal with some losses at some point. The only issue is he hasn’t won it all YET. Once he does and he will, you and others will still whine a little bit but won’t have nearly as much ammo. Enjoy the misery while you can
At the risk of bringing up this tired refrain, John Cooper had a good regular season record and was an outstanding recruiter, yet he is reviled by this base for one reason only (and I will give you hint, I never hear anyone say I hated Cooper because he didn't win a title). People who type things like you did don't understand Ohio State football the way I and others do...
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
I lived thru every second of cooper. Back then, losing to ttun meant you had ZERO chance of even playing for a national championship. That loss or any loss was almost always enough to keep you out. Those days are long over. I hated cooper. I don’t want another cooper. Day isn’t cooper. We couldn’t throw under cooper. We had great running backs. Great defenses. Great o lines. Still couldn’t get completely over the ttun hump and if we did, we’d look bad against other teams in the bowls except on a few occasions.
I don't know, Feed, I assume Georgia is thankful they beat Samford, 33-0 (you know, that FCS powerhouse) rather than having to face a REGULAR opponent Sept.10th. I mean it did allow them a better chance to go undefeated, right?
LMFAO........i must have slept through some of the season the last 3 years because (according to you) we have played 50 games (roughly 18 games per season) over the last 3 years. the truth is that is 5 years worth of data. maybe do some better research. honestly though, it comes down to BIG and national championships at the end of the day. John Cooper had a 3 year span where he was 32-5 (1996-1998) but was 1-2 against ttun and won 0 national championships during that span and very few (if any) people look back on the Cooper years fondly. So the overall record you are touting means nothing in the long run.
Wow, wish I'd caught that Rip Van Winkle, Mb5599. LOL.
And before 1996-1998, Cooper was undefeated in 1993, 1995 and 1996, and still lost to Michigan each year! How does that 0-3 sit in our collective stomach, even with being 32-3-1 overall?
Now our Honor Defend against Georgia!
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
LMFAO........i must have slept through some of the season the last 3 years because (according to you) we have played 50 games (roughly 18 games per season) over the last 3 years.
BH7 often talks without thinking. What is funny is she always says do the research but she never does.
House Money is all we have right now. We lost because we choked under pressure. We have a chance to play for the big prize anyway and More Pressure is the last thing we need to do better. That's the definition of insanity. House $$ is the only way through this situation. Play like you have nothing to lose and your chances of winning are much better than playing with an axe above your neck. And remember, it's college kids playing a game, not brain surgery.
agree that playing loose and fast is the only way to win the next two games, but make no mistake. the pressure is squarely on the buckeyes as they have the most to lose out of any of the 4 teams.
LOL Nothing changes Bro. Did you read the Article Yesterday per Urban Meyer on this topic?
"It was a bad game," Meyer told ESPN. "It was The Game, but it was a bad game, so you've got to move forward. I've been asked that question: Is something going on there? I'm like, 'What are you talking about?' The guy's lost five games in four years. They're always recruiting one of the top two, three, four classes in the country. Structurally, the place is fantastic."
Since taking over the full-time gig in 2019, Day is 45-5 and 31-2 in Big Ten play. Michigan is the only team in the conference Day has lost to.
This is the problem as I see it. TTUN is a poor man's UGA across the board (with possible exception of running game). Ohio State had TTUN in that game, one score game at home with the better team on paper. As soon as the team faced adversity, it folded. During the season, when it faced adversity, the team rallied, perhaps because better talent won out. UGA has Ohio State level talent if not better, so then it comes down to coaching and will of the players. This is my concern here dude...
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
While all the players are important I think that if the secondary can hold their own and make completing passes at least somewhat difficult for Bennett that may be the difference maker in this game. Bennett is prone to fumbling the ball when pressured. The secondary needs to give our line and backers an opportunity to get to him.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
I’ve never been more concerned about OSU’s defensive secondary. It’s been an issue all season, but was easily covered up by weak opponents and some dominant line/LB play.
If our Pass rush can get Bennett off target AND contain him, we will win. That's a tall order, but we have more D line talent than Georgia has seen all year. Time to step up, Zach, Tui, Jack, Mike , etc... this will likely be the key to the game.
Oregon had an interesting approach to Maye and North Carolina last night. Oregon looked like they were going to blitz, sending six players after Maye. Instead, only four actually rushed Maye and the other two spied Maye to keep him from running. The DL also concentrated on containing Maye and, when he passed, jumped to try and deflect the ball when he passed it. It worked really well for them.
Oregon had an interesting approach to Maye and North Carolina last night. Oregon looked like they were going to blitz, sending six players after Maye. Instead, only four actually rushed Maye and the other two spied Maye to keep him from running.
Philly, I agree 100% if we can generate a pass rush without having to bring the house. As always, this level game will be won in the trenches. Time for Larry Johnson's boys to take over the game, at least key moments of it.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
Something about talent and heart. Gonna need both to win the Peach Bowl. All eleven players on the field need to be playing in unison, working together toward a common goal. No individual awards or accolades. No NFL draft positions. Just winning the next down, the next one on one.
I’m really excited to see what Wilson & Day have come up with for an offensive game plan, and what Knowles has dialed up for the defense. I fully expect to see a game similar to the 2015 Sugar Bowl: a pair of heavyweights throwing haymakers and uppercuts to the jaw. Some standing 8-counts, but a fight that goes all 15 rounds, with the loser still taking shots as the clock hits all zeroes.
Looking forward to seeing Knowles' adjustments. So far I like what I'm hearing about their post-ttun practices and attitude in general... and it seems like the players haven't lost confidence in the scheme. It just takes execution... we'll see soon enough if it is all talk.
I feel like the real surprise could be the offense. Everyone expects us to be shut down by that incredible GA defense. Interested to see the quiet confidence of our OL, and how Stover, Fleming and Egbuka stack up. One way or another, this game will determine CJ's ultimate standing in OSU football lore. Lots of pressure on the kid.
Agreed on all above. For me, the real problem is matters of focus (certain Zone 6 and what is supposed to be our "Silver Bullets"), as well as attitude (that "Selfless Service", and "Hero Ball" aspect that is lacking with a certain key player or two). Yes, there are stats that make folks look great, but really, at this level of play (championship alley), it takes more than being talented.
It takes "The Edge", per the late, great Howard Ferguson. Urban called it "The Juice". Tressel called it "Macte Virtute". Whatever IT is, that "IT" factor that won Ohio State a championship in 2002 and 2015, is needed here.
College football is the best sport going when 2 evenly matched teams play with high stakes on the line. It's so emotionally charged and often painful to endure. I look forward to that pain, but I sure hope it is followed by euphoria. As a bystander to an event there is nothing like that euphoria.
I like that version better. I put the Ray Charles version in the Skully on Dec. 5 after the Buckeyes were selected into the CFP. As I was listening to a playlist yesterday, this song from Allen Stone played, and I wanted to see what people thought about it! It seems the consensus is that Charles is the one and only when it comes to this song.
Good lord. Being on these boards feels sometimes is like I’m in a support group where no one wants to get better. Too many unhappy people bitching about the past and moaning about the circumstances that got them here.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Lol, well said. I've always wondered why it wouldn't be more productive to hang out with a bunch of happy, successful people who can show you the way than a group of folks who have made a miserable mess of their lives in exactly the same way you have. I agree, there's more of a "misery loves company" vibe to it than an actual desire to get better.
My guess would be that it would be difficult to find that group of happy and successful people that actually can relate to the challenges you are going through. Of what use is a bunch of successful people telling you, "Just have 2-3 drinks and stop, that's what I do." if you are an alcoholic? Whether the person was born on third base or pulled themselves up by the bootstraps they made by hand, if they did it without the disease of alcoholism, what do they have to offer an alcoholic compared to someone who has gotten it under control, struggles with it themselves every day, and is keeping a somewhat decent life together?
Seems rather presumptive to just assume that people in support groups want company in misery more than they want to get better.
Good lord. Being on these boards feels sometimes is like I’m in a support group where no one wants to get better. Too many unhappy people bitching about the past and moaning about the circumstances that got them here.
That is what many people here do. It is embarassing. Bunch of spoiled fans.
Another song about Georgia sung by Gladys Knight, the Queen of Soul, who performed many times at Ebeneezer Baptist Church as a child and later at the funerals for the King family.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
Georgia has no idea what's about to happen on Saturday. Maybe they better look at that Clemson semi-final game from two years ago. It's going to get ugly early, and stay ugly. They're not ready for this. We will be the first test they've had all season, and we ain't Missouri.
The line of scrimmage will be a big determination of the outcome of the game. Also, Stroud has to be a threat to run on occasion. If he refuses to run the ball, OSU will almost certainly have trouble maintaining drives. Believe me, the Georgia QB will run it to keep drives going.
The DE are going to be the key to beating Georgia. If they don’t get after the QB early and often it’s going to be a long day. At the beginning of the year I bet Harrison wouldn’t have more than 3 sacks, I have never wanted to lose money more.
Chase, my fellow color of gray fanatic, have we confirmed that the Peach Bowl endzones do or do not feature gray along with OSU scarlet? I'd just like to know if it's premature to get angry about this.
Long arms tip balls
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That is what should be DRILLED into Zach Harrison's psyche every minute of every hour until approx the year 2023 begins. He could single handedly tip the scales in the Buckeye's favor vs Georgia.
I think the humiliation motivating factor for this team was a hypothesis that was disproven this year. They had every chip possible on their shoulder going into the Michigan game, you could've served salsa with those bad boys, and they still got beat.
Motivation should come simply from having a chance to play for a national championship and be the best damn team in the country. It's not going to take anger, or frustration or anything like that IMO, it's going to take execution and fundamentally perfect football.
The Excellence of Execution, the Best there is, the Best there was, the Best there ever will be!
I feel this is similar to the 2002 year where we had no chance against could be the first or 2nd best college team ever put together in Miami Hurricanes. No one is giving this OSU team a chance, not even most of their own fans. We have to establish the run OL, Miyan, Dallan, Chip gotta get the run game going. Can’t be getting cute on offense. They have to set the tone on being physical. Our OL is massive, they can take it to the GA DL. No one has done that all year, get them tired. Pull guards, get them having to move side to side, running straight at them is their strength, put an extra OL in there run at them and wear them down. We can’t be one dimensional and get pass happy. Don’t get me wrong, we have thee best WR group in college football but we can’t fall in love with that. I see in some of the comments where Urban is the so called master but in the 3 game we never should’ve lost we got away from the run game. We had Zeke back there and only had a few carries, we lost. Gotta run and stay on schedule. Also, Urban wasn’t that great of a coach, yes 7-0 against TTUN and a great recruiter but he had great coaches around him. He was a head case and drama followed him wherever he went. In 2019 against Clemson, if he were HC in that game we would’ve gotten killed. I would take Coach Tressel or Coach Day over Urban any day of the week. Back to GA game, 3 things to beat them: Establish run, stop the run, CJ has to run the football if it’s not there with WR to stay on schedule. CJ is probably the best pure passer we’ve had at OSU and if it’s there he will pick you apart but sometimes you have to tuck it and run, kid can run and has proven it. It’s the playoffs, either let things happen or make things happen. GA thinks all they have to do is show up. We beat GA, we will win the NC. OSU has to show out. GO BUCKS!
I feel this is similar to the 2002 year where we had no chance against could be the first or 2nd best college team ever put together in Miami Hurricanes.
This game is not even close to the feeling of the '02 game.
I mean from a stand point of no one giving us a chance against GA. You’re spot on about whining spoiled fans. Been a Buckeyes fan since Greg Fry was QB, some of those were tough years.
If the 5'10" GA QB can't get outside the pocket, their passing game is going to tank. Sure there will be TE completions, but the negative plays will pile up if our D can keep him inside the pocket. Really do not need the sacks, just containment and pressure.
As a Buckeye alumnus, and a fan long before that, I hope that the Buckeyes win every game. However, Michigan beat us soundly. And Georgia is more physical and athletic than Michigan. I just don't see us winning.
Day really needs to address the physicality of his team in the off-season. Day seems to prefer to pass first. Meyer used a physical running game, including RPO's with a QB who wasn't afraid to run the ball. Michigan has a QB like that in JJ McCarthy. McCarthy loosened up our run D by running for some nice gains in the second half.
CJ Stroud seems like a good guy, and is a very good passer. But he's not the versatile QB we need to develop a physical offense.
I love reading all the comments guys. Nobody overreacts like Buckeye fans:)
OSU is easily a top 3 program and God willing it will stay that way. I understand the doomsdayers. It sucks to get railed by your rival when you have a more talented team and brings back nightmares and cold sweats from the Cooper years. Those teams seemed to know they weren't going to beat Michigan every year no matter how talented they were. A wise man once said, "both he who thinks he can, and he who thinks he can't, are usually right." Cooper proved that correct. It's disappointing to watch them not play up to their potential.
I think that's what makes fans panic. This team seems to have no edge. Flashy wide receivers are nice, but in order to win championship-type games you gotta have grit, guts and a little badassery in you. You need guys willing to sacrifice and fight with heart. This team appears to be lacking of all the above. If you do anything with the idea of not failing, you're gonna fail. But...we're expected to lose this game. It's different. So unless an obvious lack of effort shows on Saturday I don't expect a loss to cause any damage.
Either way I'll watch, and I'll still love them afterwards. But I really hope they get their shit together because we all know this team is as talented as any other.
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Humiliation is something.
Anger is something.
What you do with both WITH ATTITUDE is EVERYTHING.
Event + Response = Outcome
MACTE VIRTUTE. NINE UNITS STRONG.
"HERO BALL" is what wins the day.
Macte virtute sic itur ad astra.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
E+R=O! Been coached a few times at work with this particular equation. I'm getting better...that R is tricky.
This is where Urban was a master. His interview yesterday was spot on. The biggest factor in the game will be how motivated the Buckeyes are. How bad do they want it? If the Bucks really are pissed off (we’ve heard them talk about it, we need to see it), if they want it more than Georgia, they absolutely can bring a Natty back to Ohio.
Maybe Day should get a psychology degree...
You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton
"how bad you want it" won't help against a better team. urban and the bucks found that out against clemson in '16. "wanting it" and being willing/able TO DO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO GET THE WIN are 2 different things.
danny
Wanting it, IMO, also leads to doing whatever it takes.
2002 Buckeyes Football Team is proof positive of such an outcome,
Welcome to you, The Second, and Buckeye Nation to Beat Georgia Thursday, with Beat Georgia Friday right around the corner.
Time to pull up '02 and '14 great memories.
O-H-
JI row end 78
I am SO tired of the talk. I believed it with Urban. I don't trust or believe it with Coach Day. I know the record the narrative is that his teams fold and don't fight less a few players.
Humiliation is a great motivator. I agree but OSU was humiliated in 2021 in Ann Arbor but the next year they were humiliated again in Columbus. If Ohio State is blown out by UGA on Saturday, I believe it will do great harm to the brand that will take time to repair.
Hopefully this team can reverse this trend. I've been a fan since Woody and Bo, and I love the Ohio State Buckeyes as much as anyone. But, it's time to draw the line in the sand and say No More.
I'm confident that the Buckeyes can beat Georgia. The talent levels are relatively even. This is maybe the last game of the season and the last game for the seniors and those entering the draft. You can win this game. Win Buckeyes!
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
What does this even mean?
Losing too many big games in a row is a difficult trend to reverse. Look at Georgia. They had great teams in the past that lost the biggest games that mattered. They finally got over the hump last year and won it all. If the Buckeyes lose a close game that's ok by me. Just make it respectable.
Maybe I'm still reeling from the last 2 Michigan games and that Bama title game, I don't know. Let's hope for the best.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
Bro, with Day, we are 45-5 and made 2 outa last 3 CFPs. We are literally a wet dream for all but 2 other schools.
I view it as Day had his 2 worse games at the wrong time, just bad luck. He made the staff changes from last year, Be optimistic, It all evens out, look at Kirby Smarts tenure.
In my original post I stated that I am confident that the Buckeyes can beat Georgia. I just don't want to see a lopsided loss. That is what none of us want. I hope you're right about it all evens out. We'll see in a couple of days.
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
oklahoma has basically the same record and no one looked at them as a legitimate contender. they were the sacrificial lamb who got curb stomped by the tougher team. Harbaugh has as many CFP titles and BIG championships as Day and he was left for dead after the 2020 season. with the resources and the talent this team has, just getting into the CFP should be the bare minimum.
Big B
Under Day, the team is 45-5 with 3 playoff appearances in 4 years, including a championship game appearance. The 2019 loss to Clemson in the semifinals is one of the playoff classics The 2020 semifinal was a win for Ohio State
During the same time period Day has been the HC, Oklahoma is 38-12, with two blow out losses in the playoff semifinals.
Some of you “fans” hate your team so much that you’re blinded by the success. Your self-induced hysteria helps feed a false narrative that Ohio State is a joke. Potential recruits are influenced by this trash. It’s bazaar a fan would act this way.
Shatinkycat1
45-5 is a good point, Shtinkycat.
I think we see 0-2 and worry about 2-10-1.
How many Cooper teams were top 5, and even undefeated 3 times, but lost to Michigan?
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
I guess, SilverHaven, this is why we shouldn't consider this year's loss to ttun the same as the Cooper years. The maize and blow are actually "good," undefeated this year. It was difficult to hear all of the hoopla going into this year's game, especially being in C-bus, getting stomped (by the end of the 4th qt.), and giving them back to back losses.
JI row end 78
Taking out this year, which was the aftermath of Lincoln Riley abandoning ship and taking all their best players, and the record comparison is 34-4 vs 32-6. If you take out Ryan Day's interim record in 2018, the comparison is 31-4 to 32-6. Both teams have an embarrassing blowout loss vs one of the best teams of the last 20 years in the playoffs. Oklahoma was either 3-0 or 2-1 vs its rival depending on who you define as its rival, UT or Okla St. We were 1-1 against our rival and have a blowout win in the playoffs. I would give the edge to us slightly but it's not like the two programs are not comparable before this season.
KCAlum, that’s manipulation the stats to get the desired equivalent comparison. You casualty throw out the blowout losses in the playoffs, but don’t mention the fact the Ohio State’s loss was in the national championship game and Oklahoma’s was in the semifinals. You make no mention of how on the national platform Ohio State fared well in both semifinal games, unlike Oklahoma. You also disregard this year because it helps lower the numbers for the Day comparison, but the fact Ohio State’s only loss this year is to the current #2 team goes to show that Ohio State is still a top program.
Shatinkycat1
oklahoma isn't 0-2 vs michigan the last 2 years. and day also has a blowout loss to bama a couple years ago in title game. beating a bunch of "bad to average" teams doesn't make up for that.
btw - it's BIZARRE - NOT "bazaar". "bazaar" is a kind of flea market where different goods are sold.
danny
And so was Miami. Until it wasn’t.
The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle.
Gen. John "Black Jack" Pershing, U.S. Army
The two schools couldn't be more different from each other.
I get the paranoia to a degree, but it's bordering on an inferiority complex for some people on this site. Enjoy the ride.
vacuuming sucks
Two things dropped Miami, one self-inflicted.
First, football became a facilities battle and Miami did not have vast resources to lead in that battle. Ohio State is one of the schools that competed well by committing vast resources to improve facilities.
Second, Miami became a coaching carousel while expecting each sequential coach to return the program to the top of the heap. College football is inherently difficult with roster turnover due to student eligibility. Difficulty increases significantly with coaching turnover that disrupts recruitment every few years and reduces credibility with prospective recruits, coaches, and staff. Following the “fire Day” crowd at this point would likely lead Ohio State to join Miami as a member of the “has beens.”
Time and change will surely show how firm thy friendship, O HI O.
"2 worse games" - does that include the last 2 michigan debacles?
danny
Smart at Georgia for 7 seasons. Won the division 5 times. So not every year. Won the conference 2 times. So not even half of the time. Made the cfp 3 times. Finally turned it into a national champion after losing in the sec champ game and backdooring into the cfp. Other than the NC, he was similar and arguably doing worse than day at osu til then. He was under a lot of pressure before last season but nobody in Georgia wanted him fired or thought the program was in trouble or being setback. It took a little more patience to get where they are. We should learn from that lesson.
You get it - this is the proper perspective.
Some of y’all need to get out side of the Beltway known as 270. There are three elite team in college football, Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State, and every other team is trying to get to that level. All the ttun losses have done is make The Game a rivalry again after 20 year’s of OSU domination. At some point they had to win a couple very now and then.
Go Buck beat the Dawgs.
Without winners there wouldn't be any gosh darn civilization. We make no apologies for winning or for aiming our entire program toward that goal. - Woody Hayes
dont think the stench of that 31-0 loss to Clemson in the CFP a few years ago has worn off even after all these years. if we get humiliated this weekend by Georgia, we are going to fall into the oklahoma category. good enough to get to the playoff, but gets boat raced once we are in it.
Big B
LOL, who is thinking about Clemson? Grind your ax somewhere else. How many CFPs for OK in last 3 years?
You're making his point for him BH7, Oklahoma got smoked multiple years in a row.... and look where they are now. Lost their HC to a better program, and weren't really even in the CFP conversation this year at all.
Another bad loss on national TV on Saturday will only cement the idea in some minds that, OSU just can't get it done on the biggest stages.
Give me a fricken break dude, the only people who look back at that game are Clemson fan boys and so called Ohio State fans living in the past. That game which was prior to the CFP is shit stain that means nothing. Catch up a little man, we won the whole damm thing the first year of the playoff.
Without winners there wouldn't be any gosh darn civilization. We make no apologies for winning or for aiming our entire program toward that goal. - Woody Hayes
That game was IN the CFP, not before it.
and then goes right on to say this
idiot.
Big B
in 2016, the bucks got an ass-kicking to the tune of 31-0 against clemson in the PLAYOFFS. not prior to the CFP.
danny
Guess you don’t remember the championship game against Florida.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
Losing is a great motivator IF it pisses you off, but doesn't humiliate you. I put much of our last loss on coaching and preparation, not being outplayed. It sounds like the Buckeyes are pissed off- time to find out if coaching and character rises to the top. If it does, we clearly have the talent and team to beat Georgia, but it will likely be a hard fought game. I think we are more likely than them to win comfortably (14 points or more) due to our ability to score in bunches, but if they win the lines, they win, period.
If we play like our last loss, it puts us 0-3 in must win" games and will have an impact on team morale and probably recruiting as well. We aren't winning as many Lineman recruiting battles as we need to to compete at the top 2 level and are falling off on corners and Linebackers a bit as well. K Combs had a great run on corners a few years back and we have t been particularly close since. If we don't up our recruiting game, the only thing that might save us is the 12 team playoff that will hurt the top teams the most as several top 10 teams will be able to stake a claim to " perennial playoff team" and draw NFL talent. In that pool I expect us to drop a bit, but GA and AL to drop more as it'll be tougher to stack 5 stars on a roster. Pay for play is about to become the coin of the realm unless the NCAA or FED steps in and regulates college sports; which I believe it (Fed) will do, since the NCAA I has lost its last shred of competence.
Steelybuck54
If you're looking for competence from the Feds you're barking up the wrong tree.
Seo
I hear you Brute, it's just that they make a living off of making bad situations worse and this is becoming a bad situation no one else seems willing to clean up- perfect for the government to say "and we're here to help".
Steelybuck54
I've learned that if you don't go into it with high hopes, you won't be let down...and that's how I am going to approach this game on Saturday..until this team can prove otherwise, the last image I have of this team is chasing the wolverines all over that beautiful scarlet and green turf..
Off subject a little, but I was watching the Oregon/UNC game last night and I must say, that Maye kid has a freaking rocket and spins a beautiful ball! And he's only a RS freshman?!?
I'm the same way Wez. High hopes get dashed too often. Better to be pleasantly surprised with a win than expecting one. OSU can beat Georgia. We'll see. Go Bucks!
I'm not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to win football games-- Woody Hayes
If you wanna be there for your team when they win, you better be there when they lose.
We (most of us) are there. Just don't like it very much- but our dislike is nothing compared with the players themselves. They hate it with a passion!
Steelybuck54
I find the number of people down voting your comment interesting.
It appears there are some that believe in not storing your team even through a loss.
Very interesting mindset that I hope those same people don't apply that thinking in other areas.
For the amount of people that take osu football as serious as they do, you would think you could relate it to various life lessons.
No one person is ever perfect and always perfect.
To love when things are well but not to love when things are not well tells me about character.
"Championships are not won on Saturdays in November. Championships are won on Tuesdays in August." -- Kerry Combs
People are down voting his comment because it comes off sanctimonious when the real issue is reading comprehension. OP never said he "wasn't here for his team." Some on here seem to think that unless you predict a 45-0 Ohio State win, you aren't a real fan. My question is, isn't that one of the main reasons we can't stand a certain ESPN analyst who played for TTUN (you know, always picking them to win every game)? Always claiming things are rosy when reality suggests this might not be the case doesn't make one less of a fan. I am predicting a 17 point UGA win, but I made big plans with friends at a watch party, won't miss one play of the game, and can't stop thinking about it. I suspect OP has some of the same feelings I do (just a guess from his post), but I am not going to hint he isn't a real fan like Seven did (and yes, that is what he hinted at). In case you are wondering, he got one of my down votes for the reason I explained here...
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
I'm one of the upvoters. I agree that regardless of where we are, that I would hope that folks still support the school and teams, regardless of what we think of any aspect of them, per squad, per roster, and per staff directory.
I survived The Cooper Years. This is easy in comparison.
Maye was 50% completion last night
I didn't say anything about his completion percentage..I just said he throws a beautiful ball with some velocity..
They say that about Anthony Richardson too. I don’t want either one.
Im not saying I want him on our team, just saying that he can sling the ball
Seriously, Wez, you want that kid??
Eff that, my hopes are higher than Snoop Dog. I don't care if I get crushed.
LET'S GO BUCKS!!!!
I’m excited to see CJ Stroud’s first game in a dome. We are playing with house money.
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peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
Should the Bucks emerge victorious in this game, the 11W Dry Goods shop should get these out in short order. I am ready
Hey look, it’s General Sherman. The “gentleman” that torched the homes of women and children (even if they didn’t align with the Confederacy) and forced them to live outside as part of his military strategy. May he rest in hell.
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Damn, Sherman had a strong meme game.
Sherman on the Presidency.
Great comment from Sherman, and too bad, as people who don't want to be elected usually serve for the right reasons.
- Douglas Adams
Excellent!
Ohio St is 0-3 in championship level games since 2020. Last win was Clemson. Georgia used one loss to Bama to change the script. It's about time the Buckeyes used those scars to recenter the program as well.
it's all there in front of them. Scenarios:
1.Upset Georgia and finish by beating ttun for the championship.
2.Fold and get crushed by georgia
3. Beat georgia but get beat again by ttun in the championship.
If it is scenario 1, it will go down as one of the most magical seasons in buckeye history. However, if it is either scenario's 2 or 3 it will take time to recover and get rid of the stench. coaches will be on the hot seat (even day) and you will see more transfers and the recruiting will take a pretty big hit. The pressure is squarely on day and this team. there is no house money to play with.
Big B
I would like to add a 4th scenario:
Beat UGA in the Peach Bowl. Go on to beat TCU in the NCG, after the venomous frogs slay the overgrown badgers.
+1 who TF would DV this?
Fuck Michigan
Certainly not me... I co-sign 100%!
My DV stalker. It’s cool though. You should see the inside of their head. It’s spacious - I’ve got tons of room to spread out and enjoy myself. And, I don’t even have to clean up when I’m done.
Heh heh...livin' rent-free. Fine Navy day!
Yes. Yes it is. Right back at ya!
+UV, Navy.
Don't take it personally.
We all get -DVs down the thread.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
Thanks, Silver. I focus on the positive. Dwelling on the negative will make you go crazy.
Looking forward to New Year’s Eve and another chance to watch the Buckeyes play football on a national stage.
Go Bucks!
The exact Bet I have over on Fanduel! Odds are +1200
There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” -Miyamoto Musashi
Let me be perfectly clear...if OSU is to win the title, I want it to be against Michigan. That would be scenario number one.
But the absolute nightmare scenario for Michigan has to be losing to TCU then seeing OSU man handle TCU in the title game, leaving them with only their regular season title to keep them warm over the winter.
I would love it so very much if Michigan's best season since 1997 ended in Ohio State being crowned the national champion. The amount of copium they would shoot into their veins about how the playoffs are flawed, the best team didn't win, they didn't deserve it etc would be too much for me to bear.
Beating Michigan would be preferred. Forcing them to watch from the sidelines, powerless to prevent another OSU national title would be a very, VERY close second.
Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.
LOL Check what playing with house money really means.
You are blowing smoke where there is no fire. Honestly, research and come back and tell us other HCs better than 45-5 (90%) over last 3 years. Then add into that list, those who made CFP 2 outa last 3 years (67%).
He’s lost the only game that matters two years in a row. That’s the only statistic that matters, you can type 45-5 another 100 times, no one cares about beating Rutgers and Indiana.
Unless he wins every big game he ever coaches you’ll have to deal with some losses at some point. The only issue is he hasn’t won it all YET. Once he does and he will, you and others will still whine a little bit but won’t have nearly as much ammo. Enjoy the misery while you can
No Bull, that isn't the only issue.
At the risk of bringing up this tired refrain, John Cooper had a good regular season record and was an outstanding recruiter, yet he is reviled by this base for one reason only (and I will give you hint, I never hear anyone say I hated Cooper because he didn't win a title). People who type things like you did don't understand Ohio State football the way I and others do...
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
I lived thru every second of cooper. Back then, losing to ttun meant you had ZERO chance of even playing for a national championship. That loss or any loss was almost always enough to keep you out. Those days are long over. I hated cooper. I don’t want another cooper. Day isn’t cooper. We couldn’t throw under cooper. We had great running backs. Great defenses. Great o lines. Still couldn’t get completely over the ttun hump and if we did, we’d look bad against other teams in the bowls except on a few occasions.
I don't know, Feed, I assume Georgia is thankful they beat Samford, 33-0 (you know, that FCS powerhouse) rather than having to face a REGULAR opponent Sept.10th. I mean it did allow them a better chance to go undefeated, right?
JI row end 78
LMFAO........i must have slept through some of the season the last 3 years because (according to you) we have played 50 games (roughly 18 games per season) over the last 3 years. the truth is that is 5 years worth of data. maybe do some better research. honestly though, it comes down to BIG and national championships at the end of the day. John Cooper had a 3 year span where he was 32-5 (1996-1998) but was 1-2 against ttun and won 0 national championships during that span and very few (if any) people look back on the Cooper years fondly. So the overall record you are touting means nothing in the long run.
Big B
Wow, wish I'd caught that Rip Van Winkle, Mb5599. LOL.
And before 1996-1998, Cooper was undefeated in 1993, 1995 and 1996, and still lost to Michigan each year! How does that 0-3 sit in our collective stomach, even with being 32-3-1 overall?
Now our Honor Defend against Georgia!
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
BH7 often talks without thinking. What is funny is she always says do the research but she never does.
TCU has a solid chance against ttun... exactly the kind of game they've been known to choke.
Fuck Michigan
TCU has the 74th ranked Defense.
And the 6th ranked offense. Let's not leave that out.
Explains wheat we are 10.5 favs over TCU and 2.5 favs over TTUN today.
EXACTLY as I predicted lol. This was the type of game Michigan chokes away. Could see it coming a mile away.
Fuck Michigan
TCU has no chance. UM 33, TCU 21 or something like that.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
LOL
Fuck Michigan
Scenario 3 is infinitely worse than scenario 2, especially if Georgia would have beat TTUN (again).
House Money is all we have right now. We lost because we choked under pressure. We have a chance to play for the big prize anyway and More Pressure is the last thing we need to do better. That's the definition of insanity. House $$ is the only way through this situation. Play like you have nothing to lose and your chances of winning are much better than playing with an axe above your neck. And remember, it's college kids playing a game, not brain surgery.
Steelybuck54
agree that playing loose and fast is the only way to win the next two games, but make no mistake. the pressure is squarely on the buckeyes as they have the most to lose out of any of the 4 teams.
Big B
LOL Nothing changes Bro. Did you read the Article Yesterday per Urban Meyer on this topic?
https://247sports.com/Article/Urban-Meyer-opens-up-on-Ohio-State-football-program-under-Ryan-Day-after-another-double-digit-loss-to-Michigan-201485134/
What did you expect urban to say about his handpicked successor? Say what you want but all of the pressure is on day.
Big B
Riiiiigggghhhhtttt, and Urban has no pull at tOSU.
Pressure for what????
Days job is secure, we have a great class coming in and we are still gonna be a top 5 fav to win CFP next year.
This is the problem as I see it. TTUN is a poor man's UGA across the board (with possible exception of running game). Ohio State had TTUN in that game, one score game at home with the better team on paper. As soon as the team faced adversity, it folded. During the season, when it faced adversity, the team rallied, perhaps because better talent won out. UGA has Ohio State level talent if not better, so then it comes down to coaching and will of the players. This is my concern here dude...
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
While all the players are important I think that if the secondary can hold their own and make completing passes at least somewhat difficult for Bennett that may be the difference maker in this game. Bennett is prone to fumbling the ball when pressured. The secondary needs to give our line and backers an opportunity to get to him.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
I’ve never been more concerned about OSU’s defensive secondary. It’s been an issue all season, but was easily covered up by weak opponents and some dominant line/LB play.
If our Pass rush can get Bennett off target AND contain him, we will win. That's a tall order, but we have more D line talent than Georgia has seen all year. Time to step up, Zach, Tui, Jack, Mike , etc... this will likely be the key to the game.
Steelybuck54
Oregon had an interesting approach to Maye and North Carolina last night. Oregon looked like they were going to blitz, sending six players after Maye. Instead, only four actually rushed Maye and the other two spied Maye to keep him from running. The DL also concentrated on containing Maye and, when he passed, jumped to try and deflect the ball when he passed it. It worked really well for them.
Is that why he was their second leading rusher?
2nd leading rusher for UNC was good for only 45 yds of the team's 116. If we contain UGA in a similar fashion, I'd be really happy!
Philly, I agree 100% if we can generate a pass rush without having to bring the house. As always, this level game will be won in the trenches. Time for Larry Johnson's boys to take over the game, at least key moments of it.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
Something about talent and heart. Gonna need both to win the Peach Bowl. All eleven players on the field need to be playing in unison, working together toward a common goal. No individual awards or accolades. No NFL draft positions. Just winning the next down, the next one on one.
I’m really excited to see what Wilson & Day have come up with for an offensive game plan, and what Knowles has dialed up for the defense. I fully expect to see a game similar to the 2015 Sugar Bowl: a pair of heavyweights throwing haymakers and uppercuts to the jaw. Some standing 8-counts, but a fight that goes all 15 rounds, with the loser still taking shots as the clock hits all zeroes.
Looking forward to seeing Knowles' adjustments. So far I like what I'm hearing about their post-ttun practices and attitude in general... and it seems like the players haven't lost confidence in the scheme. It just takes execution... we'll see soon enough if it is all talk.
I feel like the real surprise could be the offense. Everyone expects us to be shut down by that incredible GA defense. Interested to see the quiet confidence of our OL, and how Stover, Fleming and Egbuka stack up. One way or another, this game will determine CJ's ultimate standing in OSU football lore. Lots of pressure on the kid.
Fuck Michigan
Agreed on all above. For me, the real problem is matters of focus (certain Zone 6 and what is supposed to be our "Silver Bullets"), as well as attitude (that "Selfless Service", and "Hero Ball" aspect that is lacking with a certain key player or two). Yes, there are stats that make folks look great, but really, at this level of play (championship alley), it takes more than being talented.
It takes "The Edge", per the late, great Howard Ferguson. Urban called it "The Juice". Tressel called it "Macte Virtute". Whatever IT is, that "IT" factor that won Ohio State a championship in 2002 and 2015, is needed here.
College football is the best sport going when 2 evenly matched teams play with high stakes on the line. It's so emotionally charged and often painful to endure. I look forward to that pain, but I sure hope it is followed by euphoria. As a bystander to an event there is nothing like that euphoria.
vacuuming sucks
I was at the 2017 Penn State game. It was a spectacular feeling.
I was at 2013 vs. PSU. Not near the same feeling you had, but sometimes it's fun to witness a dominant beat down.
vacuuming sucks
They better shut Uncle Lou (youtube) up.
#walkaway
Having lived in ATL for 35 years (and hating the dogs and SEC! SEC! the entire time) the ONLY version of "Georgia on My Mind" is Ray Charles. Period.
OH-IO Goodbye Columbus.
Amen to Brother Ray. And how about Gladys Knight on some train to Georgia?
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
I have no clue who this Allen Stone is, but Ray Charles should of been the choice here if this song is going to be played.
“Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.” - Will Rogers
I like that version better. I put the Ray Charles version in the Skully on Dec. 5 after the Buckeyes were selected into the CFP. As I was listening to a playlist yesterday, this song from Allen Stone played, and I wanted to see what people thought about it! It seems the consensus is that Charles is the one and only when it comes to this song.
I didn't notice the last time you played Ray's version. I see why you did it now. Happy New Year, Chase. Go Bucks!
“Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.” - Will Rogers
Good lord. Being on these boards feels sometimes is like I’m in a support group where no one wants to get better. Too many unhappy people bitching about the past and moaning about the circumstances that got them here.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Lol, well said. I've always wondered why it wouldn't be more productive to hang out with a bunch of happy, successful people who can show you the way than a group of folks who have made a miserable mess of their lives in exactly the same way you have. I agree, there's more of a "misery loves company" vibe to it than an actual desire to get better.
My guess would be that it would be difficult to find that group of happy and successful people that actually can relate to the challenges you are going through. Of what use is a bunch of successful people telling you, "Just have 2-3 drinks and stop, that's what I do." if you are an alcoholic? Whether the person was born on third base or pulled themselves up by the bootstraps they made by hand, if they did it without the disease of alcoholism, what do they have to offer an alcoholic compared to someone who has gotten it under control, struggles with it themselves every day, and is keeping a somewhat decent life together?
Seems rather presumptive to just assume that people in support groups want company in misery more than they want to get better.
That is what many people here do. It is embarassing. Bunch of spoiled fans.
Another song about Georgia sung by Gladys Knight, the Queen of Soul, who performed many times at Ebeneezer Baptist Church as a child and later at the funerals for the King family.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.
Great song but the Queen of Soul was, and always will be…Aretha Franklin.
Georgia has no idea what's about to happen on Saturday. Maybe they better look at that Clemson semi-final game from two years ago. It's going to get ugly early, and stay ugly. They're not ready for this. We will be the first test they've had all season, and we ain't Missouri.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
Tired of talking. It’s been almost a month. Let’s play.
Doug
The line of scrimmage will be a big determination of the outcome of the game. Also, Stroud has to be a threat to run on occasion. If he refuses to run the ball, OSU will almost certainly have trouble maintaining drives. Believe me, the Georgia QB will run it to keep drives going.
buckjunky
That is a different take. Never thought of that
I love my buckeyes. That is all
Upvote to Ray and Gladys.
My Dad's favorite Georgia song:
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"Make Helen Well"
The DE are going to be the key to beating Georgia. If they don’t get after the QB early and often it’s going to be a long day. At the beginning of the year I bet Harrison wouldn’t have more than 3 sacks, I have never wanted to lose money more.
We all love our football team for sure but our lady buckeyes went to 14-0 after going to NW last night. Well done warriors.
Chase, my fellow color of gray fanatic, have we confirmed that the Peach Bowl endzones do or do not feature gray along with OSU scarlet? I'd just like to know if it's premature to get angry about this.
Look like there is no gray – at least in this video. It could be just scarlet and white.
Who's even in charge of the graphics and branding for Ohio State and what is wrong with them?!
nothing like getting your ass stomped to bring you off your high horse.
Do the Buckeyes have it in them or it just the same shit against a good team.
Long arms tip balls
Long arms tip balls
Long arms tip balls
That is what should be DRILLED into Zach Harrison's psyche every minute of every hour until approx the year 2023 begins. He could single handedly tip the scales in the Buckeye's favor vs Georgia.
"Put ya' weight on it"
I think the humiliation motivating factor for this team was a hypothesis that was disproven this year. They had every chip possible on their shoulder going into the Michigan game, you could've served salsa with those bad boys, and they still got beat.
Motivation should come simply from having a chance to play for a national championship and be the best damn team in the country. It's not going to take anger, or frustration or anything like that IMO, it's going to take execution and fundamentally perfect football.
The Excellence of Execution, the Best there is, the Best there was, the Best there ever will be!
I feel this is similar to the 2002 year where we had no chance against could be the first or 2nd best college team ever put together in Miami Hurricanes. No one is giving this OSU team a chance, not even most of their own fans. We have to establish the run OL, Miyan, Dallan, Chip gotta get the run game going. Can’t be getting cute on offense. They have to set the tone on being physical. Our OL is massive, they can take it to the GA DL. No one has done that all year, get them tired. Pull guards, get them having to move side to side, running straight at them is their strength, put an extra OL in there run at them and wear them down. We can’t be one dimensional and get pass happy. Don’t get me wrong, we have thee best WR group in college football but we can’t fall in love with that. I see in some of the comments where Urban is the so called master but in the 3 game we never should’ve lost we got away from the run game. We had Zeke back there and only had a few carries, we lost. Gotta run and stay on schedule. Also, Urban wasn’t that great of a coach, yes 7-0 against TTUN and a great recruiter but he had great coaches around him. He was a head case and drama followed him wherever he went. In 2019 against Clemson, if he were HC in that game we would’ve gotten killed. I would take Coach Tressel or Coach Day over Urban any day of the week. Back to GA game, 3 things to beat them: Establish run, stop the run, CJ has to run the football if it’s not there with WR to stay on schedule. CJ is probably the best pure passer we’ve had at OSU and if it’s there he will pick you apart but sometimes you have to tuck it and run, kid can run and has proven it. It’s the playoffs, either let things happen or make things happen. GA thinks all they have to do is show up. We beat GA, we will win the NC. OSU has to show out. GO BUCKS!
DC
This game is not even close to the feeling of the '02 game.
I mean from a stand point of no one giving us a chance against GA. You’re spot on about whining spoiled fans. Been a Buckeyes fan since Greg Fry was QB, some of those were tough years.
DC
Redemption is a powerful force. That's why so many movies feature it and the "hero's journey" as a template.
I'm looking for a Buckeye Hollywood ending Saturday night.
If the 5'10" GA QB can't get outside the pocket, their passing game is going to tank. Sure there will be TE completions, but the negative plays will pile up if our D can keep him inside the pocket. Really do not need the sacks, just containment and pressure.
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As a Buckeye alumnus, and a fan long before that, I hope that the Buckeyes win every game. However, Michigan beat us soundly. And Georgia is more physical and athletic than Michigan. I just don't see us winning.
Day really needs to address the physicality of his team in the off-season. Day seems to prefer to pass first. Meyer used a physical running game, including RPO's with a QB who wasn't afraid to run the ball. Michigan has a QB like that in JJ McCarthy. McCarthy loosened up our run D by running for some nice gains in the second half.
CJ Stroud seems like a good guy, and is a very good passer. But he's not the versatile QB we need to develop a physical offense.
Class of ‘71
I love reading all the comments guys. Nobody overreacts like Buckeye fans:)
OSU is easily a top 3 program and God willing it will stay that way. I understand the doomsdayers. It sucks to get railed by your rival when you have a more talented team and brings back nightmares and cold sweats from the Cooper years. Those teams seemed to know they weren't going to beat Michigan every year no matter how talented they were. A wise man once said, "both he who thinks he can, and he who thinks he can't, are usually right." Cooper proved that correct. It's disappointing to watch them not play up to their potential.
I think that's what makes fans panic. This team seems to have no edge. Flashy wide receivers are nice, but in order to win championship-type games you gotta have grit, guts and a little badassery in you. You need guys willing to sacrifice and fight with heart. This team appears to be lacking of all the above. If you do anything with the idea of not failing, you're gonna fail. But...we're expected to lose this game. It's different. So unless an obvious lack of effort shows on Saturday I don't expect a loss to cause any damage.
Either way I'll watch, and I'll still love them afterwards. But I really hope they get their shit together because we all know this team is as talented as any other.
It's always Ohio against the world.