Okay, I'll be the contrarion (while agreeing that being a Buckeye Football fan is awesome). Football is not only won with a passing game, especially in college. Bob Stoops and Lincoln Riley with that. I'm 100% here for a high-flying passing game, but we have to be able to run the ball as a balance. OSU has never hoisted a NC trophy with only an aerial assault, and I doubt we ever will. A true Golden Age would have a few CFP Championships sprinkled in, but so far having a stable of the best receivers on the planet haven't achieved that.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
And yet with one made FG or one defensive stand we would have won the championship this year (with our 4th string RB).
I mean I suppose we could've lost to TCU...but I mean I doubt it.
Agreed though that running is important. Honestly considering the state of our RB room I think we ran pretty well. I would argue you can't win without a defense before pointing to the run game.
Yes, there are 133 Years between 1890 and 2022. BUT... in 1890, OSU fielded two teams: a spring team (1-0) and a fall team (0-4). Thus, OSU has played 134 seasons. This makes Egbuka's 2022 season less than 1% more impressive.
The 1890 Ohio State Buckeyes football team was the first football team fielded by the Ohio State University. It was two distinct teams: one that played a game that spring, and another that played that fall, with a new coach, a new captain, and a significant turnover of team members.
The NCAA KNEW about the violations after the regular season, but "ok'd" the players for the bowl against Arkansas. They played that game and were handed a 'suspended sentence' of the first 5 games of 2011. (ahh yes, the Joe Bausermann Era)
Excellent read. It's something seeing all the heroes from the past, tumble down the record books. Definitely got to take a minute to appreciate where this team is right now, in regards to history!!!!
Let's see how they do without Kevin Wilson, he was the achitect of this offense. Kevin was a proven offensive genius before coming to OSU. Ryan was a nobody before he came to OSU. Let's hope Ryan learned from Kevin and implements his teachings to Hartline. We won't know until next year. If they fail, most uneducated fans will blame it on the offensive line, or the new QB. Those are things that have not been issues when we had to replace the same caliber of people in those positions under Wilson.
2015 and 2016 shows us what bad offensive play calling can do to a team. With those defenses, and the offensive talent especially of the 2015 team, those teams should have never lost a game. Unproven Beck and Warriner cost OSU at least 1, but probably 2 national Championships.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
What is so funny? If you know history, Kevin Wilson had turned the Wildcats into an offensive team while at Northwestern, they beat OSU and won a conference championship because of their offense. You might remember him as the OC at Oklahoma 2002-2010, where he won the conf championship 7 out of 10 years. You also should remember him specifically at Indiana, where whe would use the same formation and set people up with a completely different play later in the game. As an OSU fan, you shouldn't need a refresher.
As for Ryan Day, he was an unknown, was QB coach at Philly (7-9) and SF (2-14) for one year each, was let go both times.
Certainly you aren't laughing at me saying Beck/Warriner costing OSU 1 or 2 NC's. In 2015 they basically had the same offensive juggernaut from 2014. 2014, 44.5 ppg, 2015 35.7ppg, 2016 39.4ppg.
So I ask you again, what is so funny in my post?
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
There is nothing funny in your post, stant. In fact, despite being DVd in to oblivion, there is a lot of truth (or could be) in what you speculate. My major nitpick with your post is your sole finger-pointing at Beck and Warriner for "costing OSU 1 or 2 NCs". Sure, the loss of Tom Herman and the surprising return of Cardale Jones had a negative impact on offense production and QB succession planning respectively. But....IMHO....what cost the Buckeyes a shot at a NC in 2015 had WAY more to do with a lack of motivation and players' focus in touches and their NFL draft status than anything else. Shit, even the players in interviews long after the season admitted as much either overtly or by making it easy to read between the lines. So, yes, the Beck and Warriner experiment was a mess. But I contend it was but one reason (and not exclusive) for a lost shot at a natty in addition to some shitty voting by the CF playoff committee.
Thank you Nutpina. People are so quick to prop up Ryan, but forget about the other constant since 2017, who has a decades long proven track record, Kevin Wilson. I hope the offense goes without missing a beat, but I would not be surprised to see hiccups next year.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Paragraph number two, most all of us would agree with.
But about that first paragraph Mrs.Wilson...................Yes, Kevin Wilson is considered a bright offensive mind, but can you elaborate on what specifically Ryan Day learned only from Wilson? Day didn't learn anything from his time with offensive genius Chip Kelly?
Ryan coached only one year under Chip Kelly at New Hampshire (TE coach), and then 13 years later, one year at Philadephia (QB coach), then one more year at SF. I am not knocking Ryan Day, and I wasn't doing that in the thread. He was an unknown coach then, and obviously he isn't now, but nothing is guaranteed when a coach of Kevin Wilson's caliber leaves the offense. One thing has been consistent since Wilson was hired as OC, the offense. I am not predicting doom, people here know my writing style, it is not my thing. I am saying be aware, things may not be as simple now that Wilson is gone. If that happens, the quick answer next year will be to blame the OL and the QB. I used 2014 with Hermann and 2015 with Warriner/Beck as proof up there in a previous post. OSU with the same players went from 46ppg to 36 because of the OC and QB coach.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Buckeye fans love Kevin Wilson and give him a ton of credit for his influence on the offense. You probably got downvoted because like too many fans, you created a competition where one didn’t need to be. It’s not day vs Wilson or hartline vs Wilson. It’s not one way is the right way and the other way is the wrong way. It’s the natural path of football coaches and their tree’s for one to move on while another is moving up and so on. Of course there will be differences but we won’t know what or why exactly because right now, we don’t know how much credit goes to each of these coaches for what we’ve seen so far. Did hartline have some input or no input? We don’t know. Did Wilson have 50%, 75% or 100% input? We don’t know. Will Frye have more input as run game coordinator or not? We don’t know. We all have guesses but none of us truly know. Btw, Wilson hired Steve spurrier jr. to call plays for him at Tulsa. Will he get the credit or will it go to Wilson? We don’t know that either.
I still disagree. Recent receivers benefit from a completely different offense that runs more plays and passes the ball more. You also need to consider TDs, drop ratio, yards, yards after contact, yards after catch, and offensive percentage. You can catch a bunch of pop passes, but if they go nowhere then you had a crappy season. So catches don’t tell the whole story.
What percentage of the offense did Terry Glenn and David Boston take up?
Not only that but they want the offense set back 20 years to the Dave era because we don't run enough. "Passing is too finesse." Too many people would rather have Walrusball that than 5 star QBs and WRs
Not only that but they want the offense set back 20 years to the Dave era because we don't run enough. "Passing is too finesse." Too many people would rather have Walrusball that than 5 star QBs and WRs
Not saying I want to change the offense, but Bollman has more NC’s and Heisman winners than Day currently.
Walrus ball had multiple Big Ten and a national championship, bleed. What has Air Coryell done the last 2 years? It's OK....I'll wait. And no, putting WRs in the NFL doesn't count unless that is your program goal.
A good coach will obviously have their "system" or favorite style of play, but a great coach is able to have multiple offenses from which to choose. They need to adapt to the competition, state of the game, the roster, etc.
Day would be a putz not to use all this air power.
I miss watching good, even dominating defensive play. A TD really meant something then. Now an offense "settles" for a FG and the defense is credited with a win. I don't need tons of points scored to keep my attention. I enjoyed the game more before it became a video game. Yea I know, username checks out. I'm good with that.
If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.
That’s why the TE game will have to be stepped up a notch in Day’s offense. And as good as Stover was at receptions, he’s gonna have to be even better next year with downfield blocking. That is, if he stays healthy. Who’s the other tight end the coaches will put out there next year?
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Which is funny that everyone says that's what he has to improve considering before last season draft scouts believed he would be drafted based on blocking and special teams alone.
I'd guess the other TE that will get significant playing time would be Joe Royer
I'm not hating on our outstanding QB Stroud but Joe Klatt pointed out he wasn't pulling the trigger at times when he should have(especially when rattled) so maybe next year's QBs won't have as many jaw dropping throws but will pull the trigger better to make up for it. So the future is still bright.
Would David Boston be as prolific, or even moreso, in the current offense? I was young at the time when I got to watch him play. His stats are ridiculous considering the era he played in. Is that simply a product of lack of other quality receivers? He had 37% of the completed passes and 43% of the passing yards from Germaine.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
One minor mistake with that graph that I noticed.. I remember Parris playing with Dwayne, not Justin. Therefore that 1,000 yard season that he had actually came in 2018. Not that it changes anything.
Great information, truly remarkable talent under Day & Hartline.
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
I went back to every year in which we completed at least 150 passes since Bruce was hired and looked at what Receivers had the highest percentage of all receptions ie if they caught 60 passes and we completed a total of 200, then they caught 30% of all completions
To that end 30% or more has happened only 12 times.
1 - Chris Carter 1986 - 39.2%
2 - Philly Brown 2012 - 37.3%
3 - Michael Jenkins 2002 - 35.3%
4 - Devier Posey 2009 - 34.5%
5 - David Boston 1998 - 34.4%
6 - Santonio Holmes 2004 - 33.1%
7 - David Boston 1997 - 32.9%
8 - Brain Stablein 1992 - 32.5%
9 - Chris Olave 2020 -31.6%
10 - Chris Carter 1985 - 31.4%
11 - Joey Galloway 1993 -30.5%
12 - Ken Yon Rambo 2000 - 30.5%
Some recent examples
2022 - Harrison 28.1
2021 - Njigba 27.2
2019 - Hill 21.0
2018 - Campbell 23.3
2016 - Samuel 29.0
2015 - Thomas 27.6
The lowest single season for the team leader in percent of total receptions?
This is all reflective of the rules changes that promote scoring to the extent that you need an offence that can score 40+ points to win a playoff game. There really isn't a great way to do that without a top notch passing attack... as UM has found out. I, like Oldebucke, miss the old 17-10 type games where a touchdown was actually meaningful, and in some cases devastating. Now teams debate whether to let the opposition score a TD so they can get the ball back. Can you imagine letting UM score a TD during the 10 year war? For those who weren't there the scores of the 10 year war were: 24-12, 20-9, 10-7, 14-11, 10-10, 12-10, 21-14, 22-0, 14-6, 14-3.... Yeah, yeah, that was ancient history, but I liked the game better then!
It is the evolution of college football that drives the passing game and any team that wants to rise to the top must have a high quality, potentially NFL caliber QB. Receivers have largely replaced running backs as the offensive weapons that win championships. UFM chose Ryan Day as his successor to draw top rated QBs and receivers and OSU has become a top destination for talent. Now we have to build a defense capable of slowing top teams and stopping the others. Trading touchdowns for field goals is a winning strategy in todays game against top teams.
We will soon have such a disparity over past generations of receivers that comparisons will be useless. Egbuka, Harrison, Olave, Wilson and JSN are the vanguard of a new generation of Buckeye receivers that will rewrite the record books, but will not diminish the accomplishments of our past great receivers. Since we've never really been a NFL QB producing school, I'm looking forward to that change and hoping we can win some Natties along the way. It will all depend on the defense.
The stats on Anders junior year (55) catches being much higher than his other 2 seasons (25 and 28 catches) is probably mostly a function of OSU having a losing season (4-5) compared to his other two seasons (7-2 and 6-3) and OSU having to pass more because they were behind more. That 55 catch stat was pretty shocking for Woody team. Still amazing to think no one had more catches per game until 1998 and Anders was still second in 2017.
A remarkable Top Ten list indeed. Interestingly, what probably constitute the three most significant receptions of my time as a fan (going back to the 1960s) were by two phenomenal receivers who didn’t even crack the Top Ten: 1) 4th-and-14 in OT vs Miami, 2) Holy Buckeye, and 3) just before halftime vs Alabama (courtesy of the illustrious Michaels).
This could be my childhood bias to the early and mid 2000's tressel teams but imagining Troy Smith throwing to Teddy Ginn, Gonzalez and Holmes in our current scheme is wild... The Heisman's that woulda came from that...
Did you push yourself to be great today? If ya didn’t, ya lost a day. We ain’t got many days to lose. -Urban Meyer
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Great perspective as always, Ramzy.
We are undoubtedly living in a golden age of Ohio State football.
It’s only a matter of time before we reach that mountaintop again.
Okay, I'll be the contrarion (while agreeing that being a Buckeye Football fan is awesome). Football is not only won with a passing game, especially in college. Bob Stoops and Lincoln Riley with that. I'm 100% here for a high-flying passing game, but we have to be able to run the ball as a balance. OSU has never hoisted a NC trophy with only an aerial assault, and I doubt we ever will. A true Golden Age would have a few CFP Championships sprinkled in, but so far having a stable of the best receivers on the planet haven't achieved that.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
And yet with one made FG or one defensive stand we would have won the championship this year (with our 4th string RB).
I mean I suppose we could've lost to TCU...but I mean I doubt it.
Agreed though that running is important. Honestly considering the state of our RB room I think we ran pretty well. I would argue you can't win without a defense before pointing to the run game.
Lost Civilizations is thing right now... thanks for getting 11W aboard
Yes, there are 133 Years between 1890 and 2022. BUT... in 1890, OSU fielded two teams: a spring team (1-0) and a fall team (0-4). Thus, OSU has played 134 seasons. This makes Egbuka's 2022 season less than 1% more impressive.
According to Wikipedia:
Without checking any math, did you count 2010? I was there. It happened.
Time and change will surely show how firm thy friendship, O HI O.
Actually it didn't happen
So it is 133 seasons
Can't wait for Ramzy to write a eulogy on the death of compliance
it happen, OSU went 0-1, 12 wins vacated according to the NCAA Ass Clowns. 134 Seasons.
I'm here for it too.
Muck Fichigan
why did they have to vacate the sugar bowl again?
The NCAA KNEW about the violations after the regular season, but "ok'd" the players for the bowl against Arkansas. They played that game and were handed a 'suspended sentence' of the first 5 games of 2011. (ahh yes, the Joe Bausermann Era)
Cost nothing to vacate. But suspending before bowl game would have cost millions. TV gotta get their money.
Muck Fichigan
Excellent read. It's something seeing all the heroes from the past, tumble down the record books. Definitely got to take a minute to appreciate where this team is right now, in regards to history!!!!
Justin Breininger
Let's see how they do without Kevin Wilson, he was the achitect of this offense. Kevin was a proven offensive genius before coming to OSU. Ryan was a nobody before he came to OSU. Let's hope Ryan learned from Kevin and implements his teachings to Hartline. We won't know until next year. If they fail, most uneducated fans will blame it on the offensive line, or the new QB. Those are things that have not been issues when we had to replace the same caliber of people in those positions under Wilson.
2015 and 2016 shows us what bad offensive play calling can do to a team. With those defenses, and the offensive talent especially of the 2015 team, those teams should have never lost a game. Unproven Beck and Warriner cost OSU at least 1, but probably 2 national Championships.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Thanks for the laugh!
What is so funny? If you know history, Kevin Wilson had turned the Wildcats into an offensive team while at Northwestern, they beat OSU and won a conference championship because of their offense. You might remember him as the OC at Oklahoma 2002-2010, where he won the conf championship 7 out of 10 years. You also should remember him specifically at Indiana, where whe would use the same formation and set people up with a completely different play later in the game. As an OSU fan, you shouldn't need a refresher.
As for Ryan Day, he was an unknown, was QB coach at Philly (7-9) and SF (2-14) for one year each, was let go both times.
Certainly you aren't laughing at me saying Beck/Warriner costing OSU 1 or 2 NC's. In 2015 they basically had the same offensive juggernaut from 2014. 2014, 44.5 ppg, 2015 35.7ppg, 2016 39.4ppg.
So I ask you again, what is so funny in my post?
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
There is nothing funny in your post, stant. In fact, despite being DVd in to oblivion, there is a lot of truth (or could be) in what you speculate. My major nitpick with your post is your sole finger-pointing at Beck and Warriner for "costing OSU 1 or 2 NCs". Sure, the loss of Tom Herman and the surprising return of Cardale Jones had a negative impact on offense production and QB succession planning respectively. But....IMHO....what cost the Buckeyes a shot at a NC in 2015 had WAY more to do with a lack of motivation and players' focus in touches and their NFL draft status than anything else. Shit, even the players in interviews long after the season admitted as much either overtly or by making it easy to read between the lines. So, yes, the Beck and Warriner experiment was a mess. But I contend it was but one reason (and not exclusive) for a lost shot at a natty in addition to some shitty voting by the CF playoff committee.
Thank you Nutpina. People are so quick to prop up Ryan, but forget about the other constant since 2017, who has a decades long proven track record, Kevin Wilson. I hope the offense goes without missing a beat, but I would not be surprised to see hiccups next year.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Paragraph number two, most all of us would agree with.
But about that first paragraph Mrs.Wilson...................Yes, Kevin Wilson is considered a bright offensive mind, but can you elaborate on what specifically Ryan Day learned only from Wilson? Day didn't learn anything from his time with offensive genius Chip Kelly?
Ryan coached only one year under Chip Kelly at New Hampshire (TE coach), and then 13 years later, one year at Philadephia (QB coach), then one more year at SF. I am not knocking Ryan Day, and I wasn't doing that in the thread. He was an unknown coach then, and obviously he isn't now, but nothing is guaranteed when a coach of Kevin Wilson's caliber leaves the offense. One thing has been consistent since Wilson was hired as OC, the offense. I am not predicting doom, people here know my writing style, it is not my thing. I am saying be aware, things may not be as simple now that Wilson is gone. If that happens, the quick answer next year will be to blame the OL and the QB. I used 2014 with Hermann and 2015 with Warriner/Beck as proof up there in a previous post. OSU with the same players went from 46ppg to 36 because of the OC and QB coach.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Reasonable take.
Buckeye fans love Kevin Wilson and give him a ton of credit for his influence on the offense. You probably got downvoted because like too many fans, you created a competition where one didn’t need to be. It’s not day vs Wilson or hartline vs Wilson. It’s not one way is the right way and the other way is the wrong way. It’s the natural path of football coaches and their tree’s for one to move on while another is moving up and so on. Of course there will be differences but we won’t know what or why exactly because right now, we don’t know how much credit goes to each of these coaches for what we’ve seen so far. Did hartline have some input or no input? We don’t know. Did Wilson have 50%, 75% or 100% input? We don’t know. Will Frye have more input as run game coordinator or not? We don’t know. We all have guesses but none of us truly know. Btw, Wilson hired Steve spurrier jr. to call plays for him at Tulsa. Will he get the credit or will it go to Wilson? We don’t know that either.
Great work, Ramzy!
I wasn’t familiar with Anders story. He’s like a 6 sigma outlier.
Which sophomore is next to burst onto the scene?
Time and change will surely show how firm thy friendship, O HI O.
I’ll bet Schlichter had money on himself to win the Heisman. It was all downhill from there
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Thanks for the taunting gif. Well worth the click.
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I still disagree. Recent receivers benefit from a completely different offense that runs more plays and passes the ball more. You also need to consider TDs, drop ratio, yards, yards after contact, yards after catch, and offensive percentage. You can catch a bunch of pop passes, but if they go nowhere then you had a crappy season. So catches don’t tell the whole story.
What percentage of the offense did Terry Glenn and David Boston take up?
Paul S
This is a jaw dropping stat:
"Every player but Anders, David Boston and Terry Glenn played or still plays for Day and Hartline."
That's amazing, and I'm not sure what to make of it.
Given the final result of the last 2 seasons, not much.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
and yet, ppl still want Day fired and go chicken little on Hartline's promotion to OC.
If anyone should be fired it’s Holtmann
When telling the truth becomes a revolutionary concept, it’s wise to join the revolution
Not only that but they want the offense set back 20 years to the Dave era because we don't run enough. "Passing is too finesse." Too many people would rather have Walrusball that than 5 star QBs and WRs
Upon us all, a little rain must fall
The Bollrus- what a legend lol
When telling the truth becomes a revolutionary concept, it’s wise to join the revolution
Not saying I want to change the offense, but Bollman has more NC’s and Heisman winners than Day currently.
Those people have taken one too many balls to the head ala Ed Warinner.
Muck Fichigan
Walrus ball had multiple Big Ten and a national championship, bleed. What has Air Coryell done the last 2 years? It's OK....I'll wait. And no, putting WRs in the NFL doesn't count unless that is your program goal.
A good coach will obviously have their "system" or favorite style of play, but a great coach is able to have multiple offenses from which to choose. They need to adapt to the competition, state of the game, the roster, etc.
Day would be a putz not to use all this air power.
Our problem is defense. Let's be clear on that.
I miss watching good, even dominating defensive play. A TD really meant something then. Now an offense "settles" for a FG and the defense is credited with a win. I don't need tons of points scored to keep my attention. I enjoyed the game more before it became a video game. Yea I know, username checks out. I'm good with that.
If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.
I was ok with someone on my lawn. Now I’m not..just kidding. Hate to say it but we are a big 12 team right now. Gotta improve the d.
Banks of olentangy
Egbuka had one of the best seasons by a buckeye receiver that was over shadowed by how elite Marvin Harrison He’s season was. We’re damn spoiled!
I hope I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised that our new QBs can drop dimes like CJ did. So I hope we can feed the uber-talented WRs all they can eat.
But the RB room is not bare by any means, and we'll need a reliable run game to offset the probable loss of air production.
It's all there.
Heck, if GA could win it all with Stetson the Cigar Afficionado, we have every chance.
That’s why the TE game will have to be stepped up a notch in Day’s offense. And as good as Stover was at receptions, he’s gonna have to be even better next year with downfield blocking. That is, if he stays healthy. Who’s the other tight end the coaches will put out there next year?
When telling the truth becomes a revolutionary concept, it’s wise to join the revolution
Which is funny that everyone says that's what he has to improve considering before last season draft scouts believed he would be drafted based on blocking and special teams alone.
I'd guess the other TE that will get significant playing time would be Joe Royer
"going to hang 100 on them." -Ryan Day
All up to the Oline and the defense getting stops.
Muck Fichigan
I'm not hating on our outstanding QB Stroud but Joe Klatt pointed out he wasn't pulling the trigger at times when he should have(especially when rattled) so maybe next year's QBs won't have as many jaw dropping throws but will pull the trigger better to make up for it. So the future is still bright.
I need more on this Anders guy. Number 5 in a Woody system, adjusted or not, is amazing.
Muck Fichigan
Terry Glenn 22 YARDS PER CATCH! YO!
Muck Fichigan
I logged on to say…17 TD’s, 1,400+ yds, and 22 yds per catch. SICK!
These are Beast like numbers.
I do this thing sometimes when my wife is talking to me.....I zone out
Question:
Would David Boston be as prolific, or even moreso, in the current offense? I was young at the time when I got to watch him play. His stats are ridiculous considering the era he played in. Is that simply a product of lack of other quality receivers? He had 37% of the completed passes and 43% of the passing yards from Germaine.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
Dee Miller was legit. Had more yards than Boston that year. Also had Lumpkin as TE. Impressive stats indeed for Mr. Boston.
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He had more yards than Boston in 97, not 98.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
Yes, he was a generational WR. Too big and strong to even attempt to jam at the line with legit 4.4 speed. He would dominate in any era.
He was also his own worst enemy. Bad decisions, drugs (Steroids) and alcohol derailed what could have been a special career.
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
One minor mistake with that graph that I noticed.. I remember Parris playing with Dwayne, not Justin. Therefore that 1,000 yard season that he had actually came in 2018. Not that it changes anything.
Great information, truly remarkable talent under Day & Hartline.
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
I went back to every year in which we completed at least 150 passes since Bruce was hired and looked at what Receivers had the highest percentage of all receptions ie if they caught 60 passes and we completed a total of 200, then they caught 30% of all completions
To that end 30% or more has happened only 12 times.
1 - Chris Carter 1986 - 39.2%
2 - Philly Brown 2012 - 37.3%
3 - Michael Jenkins 2002 - 35.3%
4 - Devier Posey 2009 - 34.5%
5 - David Boston 1998 - 34.4%
6 - Santonio Holmes 2004 - 33.1%
7 - David Boston 1997 - 32.9%
8 - Brain Stablein 1992 - 32.5%
9 - Chris Olave 2020 -31.6%
10 - Chris Carter 1985 - 31.4%
11 - Joey Galloway 1993 -30.5%
12 - Ken Yon Rambo 2000 - 30.5%
Some recent examples
2022 - Harrison 28.1
2021 - Njigba 27.2
2019 - Hill 21.0
2018 - Campbell 23.3
2016 - Samuel 29.0
2015 - Thomas 27.6
The lowest single season for the team leader in percent of total receptions?
2017 - KJ Hill at 19.5%
I'd throw all over them dudes too.
I can't throw and they'd still make me look good.
( Did I read Kyle McCord is ALREADY a near zero experience Heisman watch candidate? )
Just saying.
Now a guy has options.
Lord Hammercy
This is all reflective of the rules changes that promote scoring to the extent that you need an offence that can score 40+ points to win a playoff game. There really isn't a great way to do that without a top notch passing attack... as UM has found out. I, like Oldebucke, miss the old 17-10 type games where a touchdown was actually meaningful, and in some cases devastating. Now teams debate whether to let the opposition score a TD so they can get the ball back. Can you imagine letting UM score a TD during the 10 year war? For those who weren't there the scores of the 10 year war were: 24-12, 20-9, 10-7, 14-11, 10-10, 12-10, 21-14, 22-0, 14-6, 14-3.... Yeah, yeah, that was ancient history, but I liked the game better then!
Those gray stripes on the sleeves! Thing of beauty.
I hate seeing this thinking what a beast njigba COULD have been.
man..
I miss Olave too!
Bangoloff
I'll help you out:
Chris Olave + Garrett Wilson + Michael Thomas.
Hope that helped.
Good news is Marvin - Harrison - Junior ( as Gus Johnson might shout) is still a baby and is a beast. He will exceed all predecessors.
tOSU = WRU
Lord Hammercy
Shame how Paul Warfield is so seldom mentioned. One of the all time greats.
It is the evolution of college football that drives the passing game and any team that wants to rise to the top must have a high quality, potentially NFL caliber QB. Receivers have largely replaced running backs as the offensive weapons that win championships. UFM chose Ryan Day as his successor to draw top rated QBs and receivers and OSU has become a top destination for talent. Now we have to build a defense capable of slowing top teams and stopping the others. Trading touchdowns for field goals is a winning strategy in todays game against top teams.
We will soon have such a disparity over past generations of receivers that comparisons will be useless. Egbuka, Harrison, Olave, Wilson and JSN are the vanguard of a new generation of Buckeye receivers that will rewrite the record books, but will not diminish the accomplishments of our past great receivers. Since we've never really been a NFL QB producing school, I'm looking forward to that change and hoping we can win some Natties along the way. It will all depend on the defense.
Steelybuck54
Using the eyeball test, Cris Carter is number one in my books.
The stats on Anders junior year (55) catches being much higher than his other 2 seasons (25 and 28 catches) is probably mostly a function of OSU having a losing season (4-5) compared to his other two seasons (7-2 and 6-3) and OSU having to pass more because they were behind more. That 55 catch stat was pretty shocking for Woody team. Still amazing to think no one had more catches per game until 1998 and Anders was still second in 2017.
A remarkable Top Ten list indeed. Interestingly, what probably constitute the three most significant receptions of my time as a fan (going back to the 1960s) were by two phenomenal receivers who didn’t even crack the Top Ten: 1) 4th-and-14 in OT vs Miami, 2) Holy Buckeye, and 3) just before halftime vs Alabama (courtesy of the illustrious Michaels).
This could be my childhood bias to the early and mid 2000's tressel teams but imagining Troy Smith throwing to Teddy Ginn, Gonzalez and Holmes in our current scheme is wild... The Heisman's that woulda came from that...
Did you push yourself to be great today? If ya didn’t, ya lost a day. We ain’t got many days to lose. -Urban Meyer
Still crazy to me that Chris Gamble didn't get considered.
Hang 100 on 'em
Devin Smith of the 2014 National Champions........33 receptions for a whopping 28.2 YPC!! Scored on a long TD pass from Cardale vs. Alabama.
I love trivia.
And won it? Let's see. Hmmm. This guy?
Lord Hammercy