This story is pretty accurate, I can't even remember the last time OSU lost two games in a row. I would have to venture it was in the interim coach season in 2011. I'll do some research and update this.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Couldn't get it updated in time. Yes 2012, before that 2011 of course. Urban lost 2 games in row once in 7 years, Tressel did it once (lost 3 in row) in 2004 in 10 years. Cooper 11 times had 2 or more consecutive losses in 13 seasons (7 of them involved Michigan and a bowl game). Earle had 6 in nine seasons, Woody had 6 in 28 years. Cooper lol. Oh goodness that was bad.
Urban never lost to UM and a bowl game. Earle only did it once (1980). How the heck did Cooper keep his job? I'm having flashbacks now!
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
That's why everyone flinches when comparisons to cooper start creeping up with Ryan Day. Cooper recruited really well. Cooper won a lot of games. Cooper lost a lot of games that mattered.
2012 Ohio State was unbeaten. 2013 Ohio State consecutively lost in the BTCG to MSU and in the 2014 Orange Bowl to Clemson. All part of the 2013 season.
Man, and that was the year I got divorced too. And cut my thumb off in a jointer at work. That game was so, so shitty. We’ll always have the Vonn Bell interception though.
And the cutting off of the thumb was right after I moved out. My ex wife had a field day with that. And two weeks after that, I had to watch Tajh Boyd look like Sammy Baugh. Watching that game felt like someone pouring lemon juice directly into my severed thumb.
And that 2014 loss to Virginia Tech wasn't too many games after that (we all know how that same season ended.) It was not a boring time to be a fan, that's for sure.
Because we play in the big10. You’ll get to see two losses in a row in a few weeks. The level of intensity that UGA brings will be noticed by everyone. Day has been exposed
Heres to hoping the Peach Bowl is as satisfying as the 2021 Clemson game. If we get anything close to that pissed off, the Buckeyes will have plenty of success.
They’ll have to get their motivation/rage for redemption from within, as Kirby Smart isn’t as stupid as Dabo and doesn’t provide perfect bulletin board content
I am willing to share the chip on my shoulder, as it is more the size of a grapefruit!! I have relatives in tsun that are making sure i am miserable, and my nfl team needs blown up and restarted!! Cmon Day show us you can get this team to fight!!
"You can't wait until life isn't hard anymore before you decide to be happy"
I think in the article Johnny meant chip on the shoulder, not ship, but I digress.
Also, losing in heartbreaking fashion to Sparty and then turning around and annihilating TTUN in 2015 was another fine example of the Buckeyes using anger as fuel in the past decade.
Put a pic of a smiling Desmond Howard on every tv in the Woody. Put a pic of Harbaugh's smirk in every locker. Put life size pics of the Wolverines planting that freaking flag all around the practice field while blaring Hail to the Victors on the PA system.....if that doesnt make them angry enough to beat UGA to get to Michigan and win...... I'm at a loss, completely baffled.
Of course, different things motivate different people. And I'm not sports psychologist, but instead of replays of things that did nothing but embarrass/humiliate/emasculate me and my team, I would put up the pantheon of greats looking just like me so that I, as a player, could envision myself in those same shoes and living that greatness. But I wouldn't just post the highlight reels, it'd be the behind the scenes work that went into making the highlights. That's what gets a team focused, imho. The whole, we have a chip on our shoulder, Columbus vs. Everybody, disrespekt thing... that's Sparty's bag. And you see how well that's worked out for them over the years. There're reasons few respect that program.
Yeah, I think the cheap disrespekt thing suits East Landfill A & M, but IMO the article author is really speaking more for when people start thinking tOSU is down for the count, which is when they are most dangerous, which is very true (2018, 2001, 1994, 1987). My worst fear is TTDS will have begun to understand the gravity of their loss on 11/26/22 and its implication on their legacy, and they'll start playing with full focus and become The Buckeyes again. Or not. Hard to say.
John Cooper did some of this and took psychological approach....didnt work out that well overall. Sometimes the primal approach of using anger offers the best result.
Dunno. I remember reading about how all the locks were changed to 42-14 after Florida beat us for the natty. Didn't have the desired effect the next year against LSU.
"Did they know they were upsetting, hurting or being unfair to you?" (DEFNITE YES), "What is the 'Grrrr!' factor of this grudge?" (EXTREMELY HIGH), and "Would this grudge be canceled out if the grudgee apologized?" (ABSOLUTELY NOT)
All examples are antiquated or a stretch. I’ve never seen an angry Ryan Day team. They were so mad about losing to Oregon that they had a seven point lead over Tulsa in the 4th quarter the following week.
This. Something I learned early on when I was instructing that some people need their hand held, and others need their ass kicked, and it can vary day to day as much as person to person. If your switch is stuck in one position all the time, you will never get the most out of the people you are teaching/coaching.
I don't think anger is the right mindset for the game. Maybe it's a place to start but that's it. Countless penalties, giving up big plays, missed big plays tells me relaxed focus is the key. When I think back to my best days as an athlete there was a sense of inner calm not rage.
Agreed. Some people need a kick in the ass, others need to calm down. My read on this team is that they don't need to "care more" and "get angry". I think they need to calm down and loosen up. They weren't unprepared for UM, they cracked under the pressure.
I view what happened as more of a wake up call than a call to arms. Anger doesn't typically work in situations like this UNLESS you make the requisite changes, too. And anger typically burns hot and fast, and isn't sustainable over a long period of time. There is a long time between that finale at Ohio Stadium and the game against Georgia.
Fix the defensive issues and hope the OL can give Stroud enough time to find receivers (and hope the receivers other than Harrison can consistently beat coverage or find holes in the defense).
Outscoring Georgia is the most likely way to an upset win.
This article actually raises a really good question, when are the 18-23 year old men actually play mean spirited? I’m past those prime years but is it still a thing? I’ve never stepped foot in their facilities but it looks like a hotel I can’t afford to stay in. Maybe this type of environment bleeds out some of the “dawg” in people?
I watch a lot of college football. In retrospect, I haven’t seen a team this year that plays with an abundance of 95% controlled nastiness. Maybe it’s a generational thing like tight shirts and (vomit) skinny jeans?
This is quite possibly the worst article I’ve ever read. You know what makes me angry? Your hair. It looks like you picked a dead opossum off the road, put it on your head, and tried to comb it. Please never publish your stupid ass thoughts ever again.
I thought they already had all the anger and motivation they could ever need from getting their asses kicked a year ago? No more talk. Just go do it. (to be fair, I haven't heard any players talking. Just the pontificators pontificating 8)
It’s been pretty clear this program is soft. Michigan called us such and then proved it again. The don’t play with fire. Day looked like Cooper on the sidelines vs Michigan. Sorry but this game is a mismatch on many level. UGA will collapse the pocket like no other Dline and CJ will never run. He’s less than 40% when pressured and (ranked lower than 130th of all qbs in D1). This game will be over at half. Go ahead and downvote reality. The program needs a reset
Disrespect will fuel the bowl game, not anger. A lot of schmucks on the worldwide leader who don’t think the Buckeyes belong in the CFP or on the same field with the SEC champion. That kind of disrespect, when used in a controlled fashion, can put a team in the zone for an evening.
Miss Urban Meyer yet? That's a coach who'd have this team pissed off, disrespected and ready to kick the Bulldogs' ass! Then again he'd have had them do that to Michigan 2 weeks ago as well
Pissed off, and possibly coming off of an inexplicable blow-out loss to Maryland the week before. I'm not anti-Urban by any stretch, but it's funny how quickly his major flaws are glossed over.
No doubt. He certainly had Michigan's number and I think Harbaugh was genuinely intimidated by urban. But, that 2015 team was mishandled to epic proportions.
LOL Richt won 2 conference titles, won 2 BCS bowls and played for 0 national titles in 18 years. Day has already accomplished all of that in 4 years. He's not even close to Richt.
Day accomplished that with Urban's guys and a kick-ass qb who got chunk yardage on the ground as well as the air. I actually can see the Mark Richt comparison.
I actually agree with you, however, he has said more than once to Dan Patrick and Colin that being the head coach at OSU would be the "ultimate dream" and this was a few seasons into his HC job at Tennessee. though they have improved as a team significantly since he said that, and also that was during Day's first or second season so maybe he felt like sure Ill just say this because its never going to happen so who knows? Also, he "supposedly" didn't like recruiting or that's what folks say. That said, I think there is more to it than just he is an alumnus who coaches and the fan base would like to have, he made it pretty clear he would love to do that job.
Range trips are good for finding your inner peace. I've worked and lived all over this country and some of the best people I met are Midwesterners, south Carolinians and Texans. Also, the coastal elites are the biggest assholes and most selfish I've met.
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
Urban took a very angry team to 12-0. It kills me to say this, but this team lacks leadership, plays with no edge, and is soft. We all know it. It shows up every 3rd and 1, and now every time we play ttun. This team has shown me nothing to believe they have a chance to play with Georgia. Last year ttun kicked our asses, single-handedly kept us from the playoffs, questioned our manhood and called us soft. A year later we were so motivated that they did it all again, at our place. I don't know what's happening, but it needs to change.
Urban took a very angry team to 12-0. It kills me to say this, but this team lacks leadership, plays with no edge, and is soft. We all know it. It shows up every 3rd and 1, and now every time we play ttun. This team has shown me nothing to believe they have a chance to play with Georgia. Last year ttun kicked our asses, single-handedly kept us from the playoffs, questioned our manhood and called us soft. A year later we were so motivated that they did it all again, at our place. I don't know what's happening, but it needs to change..
My regret is I can only upvote this once. This talented of a roster should not lose like we did to TTUN. I was waited for an aerial onslaught that attacked all over the field but it never showed up. Instead it was all or nothing as it has been the last two years. QB or Coach or both ?
They better play with "something" cuz GA gives a damn bout their feelings
There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” -Miyamoto Musashi
I have said it, others have said it. The scariest thing for Buckeye nation is that this team has had plenty to be angry about all season and the needle has not moved. Against Georgia, the bucks will have to play with a level of emotion we have not seen all year, otherwise it will be ugly. Georgia would love nothing more than to produce another Buckeye ass beating at the hands of the sec on national television in Atlanta yikes!
"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa
This team doesn’t have that mode. Starts at the top. Go through the captains. Go to the QB. Go to the star WR that shut it down. Just not the mentality of the program. Hate on Herbstreit all you want but he’s right. You know UGA is going to bring it. OSU, probably not
Urban Meyer was the only one who played well when the world was against him and they were pissed off. This offense is built like charmin - SOFT mentality and attitude
Anger is good, but the resolve with what to do with it, is really the catalyst.
I'm sure there's plenty of prey that get angry, but often you just see them thump their feet. Frustration is a form of anger. And if any supposed leader on the field is soft serve? All you'll see is pouting and temper tantrums, and effeminate reaction.
I'd rather see a bloodthirsting, action-hungry, battle-damaging sonsofbitches out there, that either nut-up, or shut-up.
I always think back to Craig Krenzel. Smart with how he viewed adversity, and properly tempered his feelings, as he threw (and yes, ran) for yards, even if he wasn't the fastest guy out there. That man KNEW folks were out to hurt him, and he played some of the most heroic football I have ever witnessed. I don't recall him being ultra-hyped up, like some of today's roster, but I would take one of Craig Krenzel, who I know has that "killer instinct", and qualities of leadership and discipline, instead of any ten overhyped softies that folds under pressure and some innate act of selfish self-preservation for the next level, that if they continue to play timid - I promise you, will NOT pan out in the next level (Heck, it doesn't even muster at the college level!).
I'm more pissed about what happened on Nov 26th than I am excited for Dec 31st. Sorry.
I just have little faith anything will change within 30 days when we couldn't make any improvements over 12-13 weeks on the glaring issues that were there.
Prove me wrong, Ryan.
There are three different types of people in the world.....those who can count, and those who cannot.
Anger doesn't make you better in the game, you can't sustain that. Self Anger in practice makes you better in the game. Having a true blue anger for mistakes is what makes you better. Failing at one on ones and having a crap game plan should make you Angry. ANGER is what the staff should have for putting a product on the field that just is not what it needs to be to succeed at the highest level. Anger is what I have when watching teams with less talent do things to teams that looks like rocket science to us. Yea I know, all or nothing (like our offensive game plan) but that is the reality of this beast we watch on Saturdays. ANGER is what Coach Day should have with himself for not hiring folks that will tell him something just won't work when you play folks with similar talent or if it does work don't change it. Everyone on staff should be angry for the product they have put out this season. Best recruiters, best facilities, best fans, Us against the world mentality, FAILING makes ANGER. We should be the most terrifying team!, but we are not because at the end of the day our ANGER is not directed in the right direction.
I think that this Georgia matchup couldn't come at a better time for the program. Hype videos, fancy drip and social media posts are NOT going to beat Georgia. They are going to punch you in the mouth, grind you down the whole game and play fundamentally sound ball all night long. The only way to hang with that is to punch them right the f*** back and play grown man, sound in all areas, ball. This is the perfect test for Day and company. Put the ball down, buckle the chinstrap and play on a string. Let's go.
You either get the boys together and get it in line, or as Schlegs says, it's going to be BUMPY.
Mouth shut, hardnosed, 4 to 6, a to b.
Did you push yourself to be great today? If ya didn’t, ya lost a day. We ain’t got many days to lose. -Urban Meyer
Talent and execution above all else. Yes, playing with that mindset of being the underdog and being pissed that people aren't giving you a shot can be a part of it but if that's your primary drive I think you're missing the mark.
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Would 2022 Michigan not count as a game on the hurt-feelings chart, though?
It’s presence on the table hinges on the amount of anger this team internalizes and spews onto its next opponent.
Hmm
Those teams mentioned had something this team doesn't have or at least has yet to display. The IT factor as a team and at the QB position.
GETTING angry will last about 5-6 plays. You have to live it.
This story is pretty accurate, I can't even remember the last time OSU lost two games in a row. I would have to venture it was in the interim coach season in 2011. I'll do some research and update this.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
2013. Michigan State then Clemson. Ugh
"We'd wipe the floor with them" - Evan Spencer
Couldn't get it updated in time. Yes 2012, before that 2011 of course. Urban lost 2 games in row once in 7 years, Tressel did it once (lost 3 in row) in 2004 in 10 years. Cooper 11 times had 2 or more consecutive losses in 13 seasons (7 of them involved Michigan and a bowl game). Earle had 6 in nine seasons, Woody had 6 in 28 years. Cooper lol. Oh goodness that was bad.
Urban never lost to UM and a bowl game. Earle only did it once (1980). How the heck did Cooper keep his job? I'm having flashbacks now!
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
How the heck did Cooper keep his job? I'm having flashbacks now!
E Gordon Gee was prez (at least part of the time)
Don' want nuthin don' start nuthin
Yep.
TBDSNITL: The best damn screen name in the land!
That's why everyone flinches when comparisons to cooper start creeping up with Ryan Day. Cooper recruited really well. Cooper won a lot of games. Cooper lost a lot of games that mattered.
Yep.
TBDSNITL: The best damn screen name in the land!
I'm not going to smash the upvote button, because you have exactly 31 upvotes to nil... coincidence? I give you 1000x upvotes though
"I don't apologize for anything. When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes
2012 Ohio State was unbeaten. 2013 Ohio State consecutively lost in the BTCG to MSU and in the 2014 Orange Bowl to Clemson. All part of the 2013 season.
Eddie! Eddie! Eddie!
lol, obviously that was a fat finger (the 2 is next to 3). thanks for the update anyway, unfortunately, I can't fix it.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Man, and that was the year I got divorced too. And cut my thumb off in a jointer at work. That game was so, so shitty. We’ll always have the Vonn Bell interception though.
And the cutting off of the thumb was right after I moved out. My ex wife had a field day with that. And two weeks after that, I had to watch Tajh Boyd look like Sammy Baugh. Watching that game felt like someone pouring lemon juice directly into my severed thumb.
And that 2014 loss to Virginia Tech wasn't too many games after that (we all know how that same season ended.) It was not a boring time to be a fan, that's for sure.
Because we play in the big10. You’ll get to see two losses in a row in a few weeks. The level of intensity that UGA brings will be noticed by everyone. Day has been exposed
Heres to hoping the Peach Bowl is as satisfying as the 2021 Clemson game. If we get anything close to that pissed off, the Buckeyes will have plenty of success.
They’ll have to get their motivation/rage for redemption from within, as Kirby Smart isn’t as stupid as Dabo and doesn’t provide perfect bulletin board content
"We'd wipe the floor with them" - Evan Spencer
Be mad and stay mad but play in control. Disciplined anger is a dangerous mentality for the opposition to play against
When telling the truth becomes a revolutionary concept, it’s wise to join the revolution
Just find your motivation and play like your ass is on fire. That's all we can ask.
Fuck Michigan
I am willing to share the chip on my shoulder, as it is more the size of a grapefruit!! I have relatives in tsun that are making sure i am miserable, and my nfl team needs blown up and restarted!! Cmon Day show us you can get this team to fight!!
"You can't wait until life isn't hard anymore before you decide to be happy"
I think in the article Johnny meant chip on the shoulder, not ship, but I digress.
Also, losing in heartbreaking fashion to Sparty and then turning around and annihilating TTUN in 2015 was another fine example of the Buckeyes using anger as fuel in the past decade.
Gentle reader. Does Johnny watch Bridgerton? Go Bucks!!!
"There's always going to be an element of pressure when you walk on the stage." -Eddie George
Put a pic of a smiling Desmond Howard on every tv in the Woody. Put a pic of Harbaugh's smirk in every locker. Put life size pics of the Wolverines planting that freaking flag all around the practice field while blaring Hail to the Victors on the PA system.....if that doesnt make them angry enough to beat UGA to get to Michigan and win...... I'm at a loss, completely baffled.
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Of course, different things motivate different people. And I'm not sports psychologist, but instead of replays of things that did nothing but embarrass/humiliate/emasculate me and my team, I would put up the pantheon of greats looking just like me so that I, as a player, could envision myself in those same shoes and living that greatness. But I wouldn't just post the highlight reels, it'd be the behind the scenes work that went into making the highlights. That's what gets a team focused, imho. The whole, we have a chip on our shoulder, Columbus vs. Everybody, disrespekt thing... that's Sparty's bag. And you see how well that's worked out for them over the years. There're reasons few respect that program.
Yeah, I think the cheap disrespekt thing suits East Landfill A & M, but IMO the article author is really speaking more for when people start thinking tOSU is down for the count, which is when they are most dangerous, which is very true (2018, 2001, 1994, 1987). My worst fear is TTDS will have begun to understand the gravity of their loss on 11/26/22 and its implication on their legacy, and they'll start playing with full focus and become The Buckeyes again. Or not. Hard to say.
Keep your friends close, but your rivals, closer.
John Cooper did some of this and took psychological approach....didnt work out that well overall. Sometimes the primal approach of using anger offers the best result.
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Need Day to make one of these:
Dunno. I remember reading about how all the locks were changed to 42-14 after Florida beat us for the natty. Didn't have the desired effect the next year against LSU.
This was excellent.
Dairy-fed intellect and pure, unhinged sass.
All examples are antiquated or a stretch. I’ve never seen an angry Ryan Day team. They were so mad about losing to Oregon that they had a seven point lead over Tulsa in the 4th quarter the following week.
You must have missed the second Clemson game.
"Make Helen Well"
this article makes me very angry.
Depends on how the anger is focused, and if all the moving parts in the program are on the page.
Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72
This. Something I learned early on when I was instructing that some people need their hand held, and others need their ass kicked, and it can vary day to day as much as person to person. If your switch is stuck in one position all the time, you will never get the most out of the people you are teaching/coaching.
I don't think anger is the right mindset for the game. Maybe it's a place to start but that's it. Countless penalties, giving up big plays, missed big plays tells me relaxed focus is the key. When I think back to my best days as an athlete there was a sense of inner calm not rage.
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Agreed. Some people need a kick in the ass, others need to calm down. My read on this team is that they don't need to "care more" and "get angry". I think they need to calm down and loosen up. They weren't unprepared for UM, they cracked under the pressure.
This is where I'm at as well.
I view what happened as more of a wake up call than a call to arms. Anger doesn't typically work in situations like this UNLESS you make the requisite changes, too. And anger typically burns hot and fast, and isn't sustainable over a long period of time. There is a long time between that finale at Ohio Stadium and the game against Georgia.
Fix the defensive issues and hope the OL can give Stroud enough time to find receivers (and hope the receivers other than Harrison can consistently beat coverage or find holes in the defense).
Outscoring Georgia is the most likely way to an upset win.
This article actually raises a really good question, when are the 18-23 year old men actually play mean spirited? I’m past those prime years but is it still a thing? I’ve never stepped foot in their facilities but it looks like a hotel I can’t afford to stay in. Maybe this type of environment bleeds out some of the “dawg” in people?
I watch a lot of college football. In retrospect, I haven’t seen a team this year that plays with an abundance of 95% controlled nastiness. Maybe it’s a generational thing like tight shirts and (vomit) skinny jeans?
This is quite possibly the worst article I’ve ever read. You know what makes me angry? Your hair. It looks like you picked a dead opossum off the road, put it on your head, and tried to comb it. Please never publish your stupid ass thoughts ever again.
nah i do what i want
Johnny, I’m bald, and I think that your hair looks really nice. I’m fact, I am jealous.
Or maybe he thought that the picture in the lead was you?
lmbo i kind of hope that was actually the case. also thanks, my hair is doing okay for an almost 38 year old with a 16 month old son
“Nah, I do what want”. No need to take the shine off of a great article. That clown already got whited out.
"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa
This guy must have terrible indigestion and fart uncontrollably
Zagabalon needs a hug from Ryan Day
Buck up
That’s the spirit, now suit up for the bucks and go beat uga!!!!!!!
"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa
I don’t the photo at the top of this article. Is it a face transplant gone bad???
Buckeye Forever!
It’s actually from the movie the Network and one of greatest monologue in Movie history. “I’m as mad as hell and I’m not gonna take this any more.
https://youtu.be/MRuS3dxKK9U
Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.
I prefer this version of it better:
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I was wondering when someone was going to reference "Network" and the "Howard Beale speech"
"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"
I love the Network reference, but Howard Beale was losing it.
I thought they already had all the anger and motivation they could ever need from getting their asses kicked a year ago? No more talk. Just go do it. (to be fair, I haven't heard any players talking. Just the pontificators pontificating 8)
It’s been pretty clear this program is soft. Michigan called us such and then proved it again. The don’t play with fire. Day looked like Cooper on the sidelines vs Michigan. Sorry but this game is a mismatch on many level. UGA will collapse the pocket like no other Dline and CJ will never run. He’s less than 40% when pressured and (ranked lower than 130th of all qbs in D1). This game will be over at half. Go ahead and downvote reality. The program needs a reset
Disrespect will fuel the bowl game, not anger. A lot of schmucks on the worldwide leader who don’t think the Buckeyes belong in the CFP or on the same field with the SEC champion. That kind of disrespect, when used in a controlled fashion, can put a team in the zone for an evening.
Miss Urban Meyer yet? That's a coach who'd have this team pissed off, disrespected and ready to kick the Bulldogs' ass! Then again he'd have had them do that to Michigan 2 weeks ago as well
"Put ya' weight on it"
I mean...he does have a degree in psychology...so I've heard
You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton
Agree 100%.
This is true. I guess it's sink or swim time for Day to be honest. He *should* be able to get this team to perform well enough to pull off an upset
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
Pissed off, and possibly coming off of an inexplicable blow-out loss to Maryland the week before. I'm not anti-Urban by any stretch, but it's funny how quickly his major flaws are glossed over.
No doubt. He certainly had Michigan's number and I think Harbaugh was genuinely intimidated by urban. But, that 2015 team was mishandled to epic proportions.
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What I fear is that Ryan Day may be our version of Mark Richt...
Just gotta keep on keepin on man
LOL Richt won 2 conference titles, won 2 BCS bowls and played for 0 national titles in 18 years. Day has already accomplished all of that in 4 years. He's not even close to Richt.
Day accomplished that with Urban's guys and a kick-ass qb who got chunk yardage on the ground as well as the air. I actually can see the Mark Richt comparison.
"Put ya' weight on it"
LOL @ you
Buck up
Ryan Day/Peter Finch mashup is not what I was expecting for my Monday.
When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less.
Just play this in the next team meeting. Set the tone. ABC.
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
TL;DW
"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH
Hell yea.
“What’s your name?”
”Fuck you. That’s my name.”
Get on the phone with Vrabel asap
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I'd love to have Vrabel, but there's zero, zip, nada chance of him leaving a...checks notes...
NFL HEAD COACHING JOB
...to become the next Ohio State Head Coach.
"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH
I actually agree with you, however, he has said more than once to Dan Patrick and Colin that being the head coach at OSU would be the "ultimate dream" and this was a few seasons into his HC job at Tennessee. though they have improved as a team significantly since he said that, and also that was during Day's first or second season so maybe he felt like sure Ill just say this because its never going to happen so who knows? Also, he "supposedly" didn't like recruiting or that's what folks say. That said, I think there is more to it than just he is an alumnus who coaches and the fan base would like to have, he made it pretty clear he would love to do that job.
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I'm glad he thinks that way. Coaching jobs do not last forever, so at some point, I would expect Vrabes to be in the running.
"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH
Range trips are good for finding your inner peace. I've worked and lived all over this country and some of the best people I met are Midwesterners, south Carolinians and Texans. Also, the coastal elites are the biggest assholes and most selfish I've met.
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
Urban took a very angry team to 12-0. It kills me to say this, but this team lacks leadership, plays with no edge, and is soft. We all know it. It shows up every 3rd and 1, and now every time we play ttun. This team has shown me nothing to believe they have a chance to play with Georgia. Last year ttun kicked our asses, single-handedly kept us from the playoffs, questioned our manhood and called us soft. A year later we were so motivated that they did it all again, at our place. I don't know what's happening, but it needs to change.
Agreed
"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH
My regret is I can only upvote this once. This talented of a roster should not lose like we did to TTUN. I was waited for an aerial onslaught that attacked all over the field but it never showed up. Instead it was all or nothing as it has been the last two years. QB or Coach or both ?
Coach. CJ isn't the problem, he's doing what he's coached to do. For example, imagine him playing at Michigan instead of JJ.
"The minute I think I'm getting mellow, I'm retiring. Who ever heard of a mellow winner?" - WWH
@Buckeyesforever:
Truer words never spoken...we'll find out what this team's made of New Years Eve. (Although we probably already know)
"Put ya' weight on it"
I wonder if Gene Smith has started to formulate a plan if things go sideways in Atlanta.
Robert M
Losing two QBs wasn’t the rage, Kosta Karageorge was the rage.
They better play with "something" cuz GA gives a damn bout their feelings
There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.” -Miyamoto Musashi
I have said it, others have said it. The scariest thing for Buckeye nation is that this team has had plenty to be angry about all season and the needle has not moved. Against Georgia, the bucks will have to play with a level of emotion we have not seen all year, otherwise it will be ugly. Georgia would love nothing more than to produce another Buckeye ass beating at the hands of the sec on national television in Atlanta yikes!
"Life is not about how hard you can hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. THATS HOW WINNING IS DONE!!" - Rocky Ballboa
This team doesn’t have that mode. Starts at the top. Go through the captains. Go to the QB. Go to the star WR that shut it down. Just not the mentality of the program. Hate on Herbstreit all you want but he’s right. You know UGA is going to bring it. OSU, probably not
Urban Meyer was the only one who played well when the world was against him and they were pissed off. This offense is built like charmin - SOFT mentality and attitude
Bronson Lillemon
Jim Tressel and the 2002 National Championship team also played well, under the same circumstances.
E+R=O
Anger is good, but the resolve with what to do with it, is really the catalyst.
I'm sure there's plenty of prey that get angry, but often you just see them thump their feet. Frustration is a form of anger. And if any supposed leader on the field is soft serve? All you'll see is pouting and temper tantrums, and effeminate reaction.
I'd rather see a bloodthirsting, action-hungry, battle-damaging sonsofbitches out there, that either nut-up, or shut-up.
I always think back to Craig Krenzel. Smart with how he viewed adversity, and properly tempered his feelings, as he threw (and yes, ran) for yards, even if he wasn't the fastest guy out there. That man KNEW folks were out to hurt him, and he played some of the most heroic football I have ever witnessed. I don't recall him being ultra-hyped up, like some of today's roster, but I would take one of Craig Krenzel, who I know has that "killer instinct", and qualities of leadership and discipline, instead of any ten overhyped softies that folds under pressure and some innate act of selfish self-preservation for the next level, that if they continue to play timid - I promise you, will NOT pan out in the next level (Heck, it doesn't even muster at the college level!).
ANGER IS NOT ENOUGH. EVENT + RESPONSE = OUTCOME
I'm more pissed about what happened on Nov 26th than I am excited for Dec 31st. Sorry.
I just have little faith anything will change within 30 days when we couldn't make any improvements over 12-13 weeks on the glaring issues that were there.
Prove me wrong, Ryan.
There are three different types of people in the world.....those who can count, and those who cannot.
Anger doesn't make you better in the game, you can't sustain that. Self Anger in practice makes you better in the game. Having a true blue anger for mistakes is what makes you better. Failing at one on ones and having a crap game plan should make you Angry. ANGER is what the staff should have for putting a product on the field that just is not what it needs to be to succeed at the highest level. Anger is what I have when watching teams with less talent do things to teams that looks like rocket science to us. Yea I know, all or nothing (like our offensive game plan) but that is the reality of this beast we watch on Saturdays. ANGER is what Coach Day should have with himself for not hiring folks that will tell him something just won't work when you play folks with similar talent or if it does work don't change it. Everyone on staff should be angry for the product they have put out this season. Best recruiters, best facilities, best fans, Us against the world mentality, FAILING makes ANGER. We should be the most terrifying team!, but we are not because at the end of the day our ANGER is not directed in the right direction.
Big478
I think that this Georgia matchup couldn't come at a better time for the program. Hype videos, fancy drip and social media posts are NOT going to beat Georgia. They are going to punch you in the mouth, grind you down the whole game and play fundamentally sound ball all night long. The only way to hang with that is to punch them right the f*** back and play grown man, sound in all areas, ball. This is the perfect test for Day and company. Put the ball down, buckle the chinstrap and play on a string. Let's go.
You either get the boys together and get it in line, or as Schlegs says, it's going to be BUMPY.
Mouth shut, hardnosed, 4 to 6, a to b.
Did you push yourself to be great today? If ya didn’t, ya lost a day. We ain’t got many days to lose. -Urban Meyer
Please start next year with an offensive coordinator from outside the program. NFL maybe?
Yogi
Go Bucks!! Make the great state of Ohio proud.
I saw that somewhere, and I look forward to it coming to pass.
vacuuming sucks
Talent and execution above all else. Yes, playing with that mindset of being the underdog and being pissed that people aren't giving you a shot can be a part of it but if that's your primary drive I think you're missing the mark.
The Excellence of Execution, the Best there is, the Best there was, the Best there ever will be!