During studs time I constantly heard that the best thing he did was find and develop centers and guards. Tackles was his weak area. Here we are with his tackles about to get drafted highly and everyone questioning our recruiting ability on interior linemen. I just wish fans would make up their mind already lol
Get Smart’s bulldogs got curbed stomped until Marvin got injured. One thing that is true is that Georgia is really good at taking advantage of an injury to offensive skill players to the other team(reference Alabama last year and Marvin this year).
The SEC was way ahead of NIL and so was Clemson of the past 10 years. It doesn’t matter to me. It was the worst kept secret that those schools paid to keep guys an extra year or two. Now it’s out in the open
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Those schools RARELY keep guys that long , idk where you see this at but almost any highly rated player from that school declares early ….. if anything its rare for a HIGHLY ranked bama player to stay
I have been frustrated about that for years. As well as impressed with how often Alabama and Georgia have a guy return for his senior year while for us it is the exception. Olave stuns us with his return for his SR year yet many others are gone.
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I am not sure I agree with the premise that draft eligible players leave at a higher rate from OSU than they do from other schools. i imagine the percentage who leave is very close across all schools over a long period of time.
Crazy that Wypler and Paris Johnson will be leaving without one pair of gold pants. Johnson is a top 10 pick so understandable but Wypler is a second round pick at best. I would come back for the gold pants personally lol.
Not often you see centers declare early for the draft. Hopefully he gets picked high. I certainly think he can/will have a long NFL career. Next man up! Gotta wonder who’s next in line there.
Leave it to the state of Ohio to be behind times on any meaningful trends. Trying now to legalize weed when it’s been legalized for several years in other states. Ohio now gets in the legalizes sports betting market that they should have done 20 years ago lol. Ohio is the Arkansas or Mississippi of the Midwest.
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Nothing wrong with the state bringing in revenue that was going into the black market. Giving people access to a product that has both recreational and medical benefits is long over due. It's so odd that people worship alcohol but weed is somehow evil.
Yeah, the same millionaires in Ohio that push politicians to ban things for decades are the same ones to profit off them when they ALLOW it to be legal. Ohio is one of the more corrupt state governments in the union.
Yikes. Predicting losses to Penn State and Notre Dame (given how bad OSU has always been at early season big OOC games). I think we sneak one against Michigan though.
Early next season will have all the Day haters running wild around here with the team trying to figure out big losses from the off-season.
My only frustration is that we seem to have zero depth at any position, especially compared to Georgia or Alabama. There have been so many misses despite having the same number of 4 and 5 stars on the roster as our SEC foes. We need to do a bit better scouting
Not all but mainly it’s Days fault. why? because he has this notion about respecting the other team and not letting your second stringers play with the full playbook against their second stringers. Do you see what Georgia did last night? They let their back ups play as if the game was 00. Our back ups don’t get that kind of playing time. That’s strictly on the head coach. This position that he takes about being respectful is idiotic
Yes, but it's the depth that is an issue. Rarely is the lack of depth this bad at key positions, which is a result of recruiting, which is on the coaching staff
There have been so many misses despite having the same number of 4 and 5 stars on the roster as our SEC foes. We need to do a bit better scouting
This is where the position coaches have to earn their money. Development is the hardest part. Getting guys here is half of the battle but the coaches still have to put in the work
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Thank God the team is active in the portal, that will take some of the sting out of this defection. Good luck Luke, you proved many a fan wrong with your play.
scum has 7 adds already from the portal. Restocking and adding experienced depth. Day, we, have 1. Wake up before the train leaves the station without you.
As I said before, not taking advantage of the portal will pit us at a huge disadvantage. Day needs to wake up. We need to recruit it as hard as we recruit high school players. Maybe more, as many in the portal are known commodities and can contribute immediately to cover holes in the roster.
James is next in line I THINK came from a very good high school program but very little pt. This could be the largest spot to fill next year for the line. Hard to predict who will play next year across the line.
Had a feeling he’d go. One of the best Cs in CFB. This OL worries me next year. Hopefully some of these dudes we haven’t seen or heard much about have some breakout years next season and stay healthy. May have to start Brown at QB solely for his mobility
We face this every year - line up turnover.... if the coaches have done their job, we'll have players ready to step in as starters .... we'll be fine .....
Just for once can we start keeping some people like some of the other teams seem to get lucky with?! The players that are staying I honestly expected to stay and they really should to help themselves.. it would be great to just keep a couple of players for once that we know can go to the NFL but choose to stay 1 more year at Ohio State anyway.. I have massive concerns about the depth and talent and on the o- line.. download if you wish but that's just the reality right now unfortunately.
I know it’s basically a given with him headed to the senior bowl but I don’t remember seeing an article about Dawand declaring. Is that a proverbial cat or a prediction… Or did I just miss it?
You only play in the Senior Bowl if you are moving on from college. Don’t think that he has announced it yet (Stroud hasn’t either). Maybe he will announce it by the end of the week.
First year as a starter, had some issues but he was a rock this year. I was hoping that Wypler would come back next year because we are losing both OTs.
He proved me wrong and did a great job keeping Jalen Carter out of our backfield. His stock from that game certainly went up, and because of that, he made the right call declaring.
So now we're replacing Paris, Dawand and now Luke. Jesus Christ. Also with a new QB, I'm VERY concerned about next year.
This very site had an article of a OT choosing USC over us just 2-3 days ago. I’ve seen numerous articles about the misses on OL this portal season alone.
3 interior lineman and one project tackle on a team with one possible tackle. Its not his fault with regards to the lack of depth, but the misses in the transfer portal have to be head scratching. There is a starting spot, maybe 2, just waiting there.
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not sure why you were downvoted Lou. it is the truth. UGA and Alabama reload each year without much drop off. consistent championship teams are ruthless on the recruiting trail and with their own rosters. produce or be processed out. until day gets that mentality we will never see the results UGA and Alabama have had. National championships would be nice, but I would rather just get back to beating ttun every year.
Pre portal Alabama was dominant. They’d get a transfer or 2 but it wasn’t a necessity. Once the portal happened, they hit it hard out of necessity and lost a lot of ones that usually stuck around. No NC’s since then. Georgia doubled down on recruiting and retention. Very little portal activity. They’ve won 2 NC’s since then. We should all want to emulate Georgia not bama now.
you are discounting Bama like they were Purdue. The level of success that Saban has had at Bama is unmatched. Smart may get there, but next year will be very interesting and I would not count Saban out. Also, Georgia is one of the biggest hotbeds of recruiting talent out there. no surprise that they kept quite a few of their in state 4-5*'s where as Alabama has to get their players from out of state mostly. Bama will see a dip in recruiting due to NIL as will OSU. Out of state players, with no allegiance to either school, who want to have the best chance to win a championship (as past history will bear out) will go to Bama over OSU. Not to mention, Saban is going to make sure his NIL program is one of the best going forward.
Spoiled fans think its a birthright that Day will have them in the playoffs again and again. Its hard no doubt. My fear is that he missed his window for a title - he cannot keep blowing these chances. And now there is a very real possibility that they are looking at a 3rd place finish in their division, as penn state is going to be pretty loaded next year. We will see what happens. All i know is that UGA's schedule is dogshit so they will pretty much be secured a spot in the SEC title game, at the least.
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
Everyone keeps talking about hitting the portal. It hasn’t gone well thus far. Essentially not having NIL is gonna be hard to deal with. Not many college players worth a shit are gonna turn down money for the sake of “development”. The Syracuse safety is one. As of now they’re batting .100.
I didn't realize that there was no cash for transfers, is that accurate? With Stroud and the #1 WR leaving the program that should free up 4 million or so.
I anticipate a HUGE drop off next year in the OL. Replacing Paris, a 5-star all-everything franchise left tackle, Dawand, a giant 6'8'' athletic right tackle, and Luke, a very solid multi-year starter who played his ass off on NYE-- that is NOT easy to do. We don't have replacements anywhere near their level. Not saying those guys can't be good. But we're not re-loading on the OL. We have not set the world on fire in OL recruiting, and we are coming up 0-fer in the portal. Justin Frye has a BIG ASS challenge ahead of him. With our tough as shit road schedule, McCord and Brown just gulped.
Would not surprise me if our offense struggled mightily.
Think offensive line replaces secondary as my biggest concern for next season. Who the hell is going to be the center? Lol. Going to have to come from the portal.
I hope this works out for him. It's really tough to make it in the NFL as a defensive tackle or interior offensive lineman after just three seasons in college, and there are only ever a few teams who have center as a high draft priority. I also wonder about the reputation of Ohio State right now, after so many of our recent guards and centers entering the NFL have underperformed their draft position.
The "brotherhood" ends as soon as the limo with the agent pulls into the parking lot. Paraphrasing Mack Brown when he was at Texas and Vince Young left before his senior year. Very little reason to get emotional about this. Most players come to OSU as a business decision and they leave for the same reason. It might explain why the commentary on this and many other forums has become increasingly caustic as college football officially becomes a minor league NFL farm system.
I don't think we even have a Center on our roster. The first time in a decade we haven't had a quality one waiting to take over. Corey Linsley, Jacoby Boren, Pat Elflein, Billy Price, Michael Jordan, Josh Myers, Luke Wypler, and ???? Are they sure Matthew Jones does not have another year of eligibility left? They need to double check that. He wants to take his extra year due to Covid next season as our Center. I'll fill out the paper work for him.
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The only reason I remember him playing Center was because every snap was an adventure. Haskins would have thrown for over 5,000 yds that season, if he wouldn't have had to worry about whether Jordan was going to snap the ball at his feet or over his head on every down.
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Most of them players became really good after they got here. Not all of them came in as centers or even as can’t miss players like every fan wants to have. That’s called development. With that long history of success why should we think it’ll just stop now?
Wypier was an untested rookie when he got his start on the OL. He matured into a fine player. Let's hope one of the guys waiting in the wings will progress in the same way.
Congrats. Go collect your millions, young man. Thankfully for you, OSU has done such a great job recruiting, they will just reload from tremendous depth. Next man up! With your schedule, your OL will have plenty of experience by the end of the season.
There are plenty waiting to get their shots. We have some nice talent coming in and a pretty good assortment of guys to fill in. OL recruiting is always a priority and certainly for the 24 class. We’ll definitely see how the development is going in the program this fall. 2nd and 3rd year guys.
Hoping Jones stays, they shift him to center and the rest should structure pretty well yet as others are saying, we do NOT have the O-Line Titans we did even 3 years ago! That is a big problem!
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We’ve got some serious size on the roster if that is what you are referring to. The two deep has 5 guys 6’6” or better. Most being decently rated 4 stars. I started looking @ the roster and we are not in bad shape at all imo.After Wypler declared and missing out on the portal tackles I started to get a little worried about OL. I’m really excited to see more of Royer @ TE and incoming freshman Jelani Thurman #2 TE in his class and is one of the early enrollees They look like real TE’s not converted LB’s.
Best wishes to Luke as he pursues his dream. Well deserved, played his rear-end off. And showed out in the playoffs (along with the rest of the interior line) proving the over weight and over rated (and completely gassed) UGA DT could be handled.
Kids come to OSU with a goal in mind, making the NFL, and Luke assessed this to be his best opportunity. Will be rooting for him. Next man up, however unexpectedly.
You shouldn't be given the time we've got to see these three guys healthy, they balled out on the snaps they got to play this season. Now of course you want some experienced depth at LT, but Jackson was the #1 OG coming out, Jones will probably want a fully healthy season on tape and he was the #1 C in 2018 and that would raise his stock, Vimahi and Fryar were both good in spot duty and I think Jacobs was the guy they were all raving about during bowl practices?
Let's give the new blood a chance...the last time we had new blood that needed to gel was in 2014.
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Not ideal, but this Spring’s transfer portal just picked up some additional urgency. That is, if the remaining OL personnel on the roster aren’t cutting it.
Again, not ideal and the other thing with the transfer portal is, NIL seems to play a role. And by all accounts, OSU is still figuring out the NIL landscape.
People talking about next year being a 3-4 loss season is ridiculous. Could it happen, sure, but 1. we don’t even know what the roster will look like next year and 2. despite all the talent that’s leaving, outside of Georgia and possibly Michigan and Alabama, every other school would gladly trade rosters with OSU.
We’ll most likely pull a few players from the portal and we are absolutely loaded at the skill positions and our defense should be vastly improved.
Predicting CSH starts at one of the corner spots.
Yeah that's never happened before where a team has been successful replacing a QB, RT and LT. I mean how are we going to function, how does a team do this and be successful. /s
I sincerely wish him the best, and I'm confident the Buckeyes will fix any hole at this position, and for both of those reasons...
I wish he would've stayed one more year, that is, for his own good, but it looks like the dye has been cast.
Thing is, it's important to get off to a good start in the NFL, where first impressions tend to be lasting ones, whereby whenever a player isn't quite ready for primetime, he tends to get pigeonholed and might never have the same shot that he once had, on top of which, I'm also quite confident that if Wypler stayed around for another year, he'd be drafted far higher--and be paid far more money--than if he left early, whereby I'll be a bit surprised if he's more than a mid-to-late round pick. We'll see.
In other words, I'm just not confident this is the best decision for Luke's own good--quite the opposite--but just the same, I hope I'm wrong and he's right, and more importantly (i.e., for me, that is, as a fan of the Buckeyes and college football, which is a bigger priority for me than NFL prospects for individual players), I think the Buckeyes will be just fine.
Sure, they'll need to adapt, and there's always going to be some amount of discomfort that comes with change, but that's also the nature of college football... on steroids.
Between the portal and NIL (and even the looming impact of expanded playoffs, expanded coaching staffs, conference realignments, and the demise of virtually any meaningful NCAA rules and related enforcement), roster churn-and-burn and the related quality of a program's personnel/player management is bound to be a bigger issue than ever, which means that managing stability through change will be a bigger issue than ever.
To that end, IMHO, we've barely hit the tip of the iceberg, and over the course of the next decade or so, we should expect to see a number of programs rise and fall--even some of the biggest brand names--until the dust settles (if it ever does).
Inevitably, the big winners will be the programs who don't just mouth the words "next man up," but put structures and plans in place for replacing guys like Wypler ASAP vs spending much time lamenting their departures (whether or not said departures were smart decisions on the part of the player). So...
Good luck, Luke, and even more than that, good luck to Ryan Day, Justin Frye and Mark Pantoni.
I think it’s time to realize 2023 could be as much of a “rebuild” as we’ve seen since Meyer’s first year. It’s unrealistic to expect Ohio St to strike gold in the portal under even optimal conditions. And the Bucks aren’t typically geared towards building an entire unit on offense or defense from the portal. Usually a starter here or there, and some depth but as was mentioned, if Matt Jones goes, this is a complete rebuild. No reason to panic but just to understand maybe to lower the undefeated or even one loss talk for a bit
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New o line coach has them playing well so I’m giving him the chance to coach these other guys up. The spring portal window will have some guys that become “the next must get’s” and i see an addition or 2.
I really did not see that coming. Very disappointed, but if that is what he felt was best for him. In the long run, coming back another year might have resulted in a higher draft pick for him.
Best of luck, but maaaaaaan this one sucks. I felt like if Wypler stayed, even if the OL is replacing both starting OTs and likely one OG I thought they could get it whipped into shape but now it appears the team will be breaking in 4 brand new OL-men. That's going to be a tough ask, coach Frye better be on the damn money.
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This one hurts. I was hoping he would be back for another year. If they are replacing most of the line with a new QB than next year could be rough. At least by OSU standards. They have some decent players but other guys are going to need to step up fast.
He was a really good center. I just selfishly wish he stayed another year.
Luke did as a good a job as anyone at consistently stepping up his game to match and beat what the competition had in store for him. It's gonna be tough to replace him.
Had a feeling this was going to happen and this makes the offensive line room a little more shaky. We have no idea is Jakob Jones can fill the role and quite honestly I don’t think he can. There were so many misses during Studs time here. They better address it in the spring and get more bodies
1) Lots of first year starters on O-Line (They could band together and surprise us)
2) Green QB (Could be an immediate star, but who knows)
3) No reason to believe corners and safeties are going to be any better (at least not until The Game)
4) Injury prone RBs (Would love to be wrong on this)
My expectation for next season, is that we lose a couple times early or mid season, and then round into form in time for The Game. Beat Michigan, and follow that up by beating the crap out of whoever we get in our bowl game. I'm guessing that we won't win the conference or make the playoff, but by the end of the season we will be one of the best teams in the country, and we'll all have to deal with the frustration of knowing that we'll once again lose a bunch of our stars before 2024. It's all about timing folks. This was our year. We blew it.
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Sorry, there is not reason for next years Bucks team to be a 9-3 team, none. With the skill positions and an O-Line that should be at least average and a defense that again, should be able to keep the team in most games, a 10-2 season would be the floor. And yes, "We" blew it this season and it hurts.
So many negative people in here. None of us know shit about next year's O-Line roster because nobody has really played. There have been comments by coaches about players needing to step up. Urban used to do this all the time because psychology and such. Sure we dont have some of the top tackle recruits that we would like but crying about it now without information is useless.
Find another hobby for a couple months and come back for spring practice updates and the spring game.
Because if Ohio State fans didn't find something to complain about and mask it as 'being realistic', then they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.
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This is a tough one but I'm happy for him. Besides being a great anchor in the middle of the line, he has a great tough nose attitude and that will be missed a lot....he plays with a chip on his shoulder and brings that attitude to the line.
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I think freshman Luke Montgomery from Findlay Ohio will work his way into the starting OL rotation sooner than most think. This dude mauls people and does not stop. Very Athletic for his size as well. Watch his film from HS complete dominate player.
I live in Findlay and have heard all the pros and cons about him. I have never seen him play. Have been told about very quick feet but lacking strength at this point but works very hard. Was very disappointed to watch the highlight of him getting trucked by Keely in the all star game. Not a good look and showed lack of strength. I do not believe he had a real good showing in the game itself. That being said I think the Buckeye weight room will really benefit him and I see him a a future guard or maybe center and not tackle. How soon? Get him developed and maybe a couple of years.
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This one hurts. I don't recall a single bad snap of his at any time over the last two years.
but some reason i recall every BAD SNAP to terrelle pryor, braxton, JT, dwayne, and justin
Because for too long we insisted on playing non-centers at center. “Best five on the field” was always a dumb philosophy.
During studs time I constantly heard that the best thing he did was find and develop centers and guards. Tackles was his weak area. Here we are with his tackles about to get drafted highly and everyone questioning our recruiting ability on interior linemen. I just wish fans would make up their mind already lol
Glad for him, not good for the o-line.
They’re gonna show him beating Jalen Carter’s ass on repeat and rightfully so. Wypler shined on the biggest stage. Great Buckeye. Go get yours Luke!
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Get Smart’s bulldogs got curbed stomped until Marvin got injured. One thing that is true is that Georgia is really good at taking advantage of an injury to offensive skill players to the other team(reference Alabama last year and Marvin this year).
Man, why is it these type of guys always seem to leave OSU, but return for other big schools?
Because OSU is an NFL factory, just going to OSU by default guarantees a team will look at you no matter how bad you play , Ex. shaun Wade
So is Georgia, Bama, Clemson yet they somehow get these guys to stay that one more year more times than they go early
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They were getting them before NIL. Natty chances next year just took and even deeper dive.
The SEC was way ahead of NIL and so was Clemson of the past 10 years. It doesn’t matter to me. It was the worst kept secret that those schools paid to keep guys an extra year or two. Now it’s out in the open
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Know the paid DJ and Bresee a quarter mill each
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Yeah - everyone who does something that OSU doesn't, is cheating!
Go ahead and keep putting words in people’s mouths dumbass. My post mentioned nothing of cheating at all. Nice straw man you built there
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In what way does this not indicate your assumption of them cheating?
Those schools RARELY keep guys that long , idk where you see this at but almost any highly rated player from that school declares early ….. if anything its rare for a HIGHLY ranked bama player to stay
I have been frustrated about that for years. As well as impressed with how often Alabama and Georgia have a guy return for his senior year while for us it is the exception. Olave stuns us with his return for his SR year yet many others are gone.
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I am not sure I agree with the premise that draft eligible players leave at a higher rate from OSU than they do from other schools. i imagine the percentage who leave is very close across all schools over a long period of time.
I don't see that. That's too much generalization. This happens when it happens, all over.
O Line gonna so bad now lmao.
Big loss.
Ultimately, we recruit well for center, but that doesn’t mean we won’t see hiccups.
Go get yours, Luke!
Good luck at the next level big man.
Hoping he would stay but looking forward to his next job opportunity. Congrats !!
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Crazy that Wypler and Paris Johnson will be leaving without one pair of gold pants. Johnson is a top 10 pick so understandable but Wypler is a second round pick at best. I would come back for the gold pants personally lol.
I think a caveat is in order. All those guys would have been on an OSU team that boat raced TUN in 2020 without any shadow of a doubt.
Not often you see centers declare early for the draft. Hopefully he gets picked high. I certainly think he can/will have a long NFL career. Next man up! Gotta wonder who’s next in line there.
Good luck Luke
Looking at replacing four out of the five o linemen as well as the qb. Big big off-season coming.
Stay gold, Ponyboy.
Thus far with no transfer portal action on the O line, aside from a long snapper.
Gotta up that NIL game.
Unfortunately we don't have NIL game and are years behind the competition.
Leave it to the state of Ohio to be behind times on any meaningful trends. Trying now to legalize weed when it’s been legalized for several years in other states. Ohio now gets in the legalizes sports betting market that they should have done 20 years ago lol. Ohio is the Arkansas or Mississippi of the Midwest.
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Just because somebody else is doing it doesn’t always make it a good idea.
There are various ‘excuses” that politicians vote down potentially beneficial legislation and voters’ well being is never a part of the equation
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Let’s be honest here, if weed and gambling are legalized it will have nothing to do with voters well being. It is all about revenue.
Nothing wrong with the state bringing in revenue that was going into the black market. Giving people access to a product that has both recreational and medical benefits is long over due. It's so odd that people worship alcohol but weed is somehow evil.
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Yeah, the same millionaires in Ohio that push politicians to ban things for decades are the same ones to profit off them when they ALLOW it to be legal. Ohio is one of the more corrupt state governments in the union.
Yikes. Predicting losses to Penn State and Notre Dame (given how bad OSU has always been at early season big OOC games). I think we sneak one against Michigan though.
Early next season will have all the Day haters running wild around here with the team trying to figure out big losses from the off-season.
My only frustration is that we seem to have zero depth at any position, especially compared to Georgia or Alabama. There have been so many misses despite having the same number of 4 and 5 stars on the roster as our SEC foes. We need to do a bit better scouting
Not all but mainly it’s Days fault. why? because he has this notion about respecting the other team and not letting your second stringers play with the full playbook against their second stringers. Do you see what Georgia did last night? They let their back ups play as if the game was 00. Our back ups don’t get that kind of playing time. That’s strictly on the head coach. This position that he takes about being respectful is idiotic
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Oh stop, players have left Ohio State early for years.
Yes, but it's the depth that is an issue. Rarely is the lack of depth this bad at key positions, which is a result of recruiting, which is on the coaching staff
This is where the position coaches have to earn their money. Development is the hardest part. Getting guys here is half of the battle but the coaches still have to put in the work
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But the issues have been home games recently (VT, Oklahoma, Oregon). They’ve had great success on the road.
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Thank God the team is active in the portal, that will take some of the sting out of this defection. Good luck Luke, you proved many a fan wrong with your play.
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Wait till you see the transfer portal articles...
Lol. Michigan is tearing up the portal. The offensive line targets all seem to be saying "thanks but no thanks" to our new oline coach.
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
scum has 7 adds already from the portal. Restocking and adding experienced depth. Day, we, have 1. Wake up before the train leaves the station without you.
As I said before, not taking advantage of the portal will pit us at a huge disadvantage. Day needs to wake up. We need to recruit it as hard as we recruit high school players. Maybe more, as many in the portal are known commodities and can contribute immediately to cover holes in the roster.
Michigan is offering a sweet sweet one more year NIL deal right now. Get on board and get these boys paid
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Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Can’t fault young Mr. Wypler. Will always be thankful he answered the call so excellently when Harry Miller was dealing with his issues and beyond.
Presumptuous blather.
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Interesting choice of word. One might be inclined to believe you didn’t/don’t know what it means.
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With the weapons they have all they need is some fat boys to get in the way a little bit to beat ND.
Go Bucks!
Ohio State can sure sell playing time to o linemen in the portal. Need a center and a tackle asap.
Stay gold, Ponyboy.
The message seems to be lost as they are all saying no thanks.
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
We’ll crap. next man up (fingers crossed)
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James is next in line I THINK came from a very good high school program but very little pt. This could be the largest spot to fill next year for the line. Hard to predict who will play next year across the line.
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Going to be a transition year for sure next year. New QB, 4 new OL. This is why I have Brown as the starting QB. More mobile.
Yep, makes the missed opportunity this year all the more painful. Just the way us Buckeye fans have gotten used to.
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Three new O-linemen. Matt Jones and Donovan Jackson are both returning.
11 Strong.
Had a feeling he’d go. One of the best Cs in CFB. This OL worries me next year. Hopefully some of these dudes we haven’t seen or heard much about have some breakout years next season and stay healthy. May have to start Brown at QB solely for his mobility
I don’t know why this shocks me, but it does however, it shouldn’t because he is a stud. Good luck, my man
Fire Kevin Warren
We face this every year - line up turnover.... if the coaches have done their job, we'll have players ready to step in as starters .... we'll be fine .....
Well except for Jackson at LG and Fryar (likely) at RT every spot should be an open competition, best players play…
You’re forgetting about Matt Jones. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t concerned, but the sky is far from falling… yet
Ouch, this hurts! Guess his big game vs Georgia made him more confident in being drafted plus a fairly underwhelming crop of centers this draft.
Guess we find out how good our o-line recruiting and development is this year. Lot's of opportunities up for grabs!
JWilly3
Day needs to get a few OLs in the portal. Need a strong OL to complete next year.
Just for once can we start keeping some people like some of the other teams seem to get lucky with?! The players that are staying I honestly expected to stay and they really should to help themselves.. it would be great to just keep a couple of players for once that we know can go to the NFL but choose to stay 1 more year at Ohio State anyway.. I have massive concerns about the depth and talent and on the o- line.. download if you wish but that's just the reality right now unfortunately.
or just recruit better? Thats how Bama and Georgia win multiple natties.
Yikes!
Just play. Have fun. Enjoy the game. -- Michael Jordan
I know it’s basically a given with him headed to the senior bowl but I don’t remember seeing an article about Dawand declaring. Is that a proverbial cat or a prediction… Or did I just miss it?
You only play in the Senior Bowl if you are moving on from college. Don’t think that he has announced it yet (Stroud hasn’t either). Maybe he will announce it by the end of the week.
With the offensive line guys declaring I’d be surprised if Stroud sticks around. Sort of surprised he hasn’t declared already though
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With or without returning OL, he’s gone. It’s not even a conversation
Pet peeve of mine, people who claim conversations are not to be allowed.
bucks19 here to police our thoughts and opinions.
First year as a starter, had some issues but he was a rock this year. I was hoping that Wypler would come back next year because we are losing both OTs.
Best of luck at the next level, young man.
He proved me wrong and did a great job keeping Jalen Carter out of our backfield. His stock from that game certainly went up, and because of that, he made the right call declaring.
So now we're replacing Paris, Dawand and now Luke. Jesus Christ. Also with a new QB, I'm VERY concerned about next year.
BOATS and HOES.
Didn't see that one coming
Good luck at the next level
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Sucks...ran Stud out of town...and now not looking good at all. I see 50 passing attempts in our future.
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Coach Frye is going to earn his paycheck next year.
He's certainly not earning it in recruiting or in the portal
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
You are relentless with this line of comments. What evidence that he has offered O-Linemen that you know of who then turned him down?
I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk
This very site had an article of a OT choosing USC over us just 2-3 days ago. I’ve seen numerous articles about the misses on OL this portal season alone.
Huh? Buckeyes just signed 4 (count 'em) four 4* offensive lineman in the most recent class
Try to keep up with current events please.
3 interior lineman and one project tackle on a team with one possible tackle. Its not his fault with regards to the lack of depth, but the misses in the transfer portal have to be head scratching. There is a starting spot, maybe 2, just waiting there.
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
Good luck young man. We will be fine.
Yep, that horseshit loss to UGA is going to sting for a long time, given all the pieces we lose this year. Sigh.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
And UGA will reload and make a run for a 3rd title.
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
not sure why you were downvoted Lou. it is the truth. UGA and Alabama reload each year without much drop off. consistent championship teams are ruthless on the recruiting trail and with their own rosters. produce or be processed out. until day gets that mentality we will never see the results UGA and Alabama have had. National championships would be nice, but I would rather just get back to beating ttun every year.
Big B
Pre portal Alabama was dominant. They’d get a transfer or 2 but it wasn’t a necessity. Once the portal happened, they hit it hard out of necessity and lost a lot of ones that usually stuck around. No NC’s since then. Georgia doubled down on recruiting and retention. Very little portal activity. They’ve won 2 NC’s since then. We should all want to emulate Georgia not bama now.
you are discounting Bama like they were Purdue. The level of success that Saban has had at Bama is unmatched. Smart may get there, but next year will be very interesting and I would not count Saban out. Also, Georgia is one of the biggest hotbeds of recruiting talent out there. no surprise that they kept quite a few of their in state 4-5*'s where as Alabama has to get their players from out of state mostly. Bama will see a dip in recruiting due to NIL as will OSU. Out of state players, with no allegiance to either school, who want to have the best chance to win a championship (as past history will bear out) will go to Bama over OSU. Not to mention, Saban is going to make sure his NIL program is one of the best going forward.
Big B
Spoiled fans think its a birthright that Day will have them in the playoffs again and again. Its hard no doubt. My fear is that he missed his window for a title - he cannot keep blowing these chances. And now there is a very real possibility that they are looking at a 3rd place finish in their division, as penn state is going to be pretty loaded next year. We will see what happens. All i know is that UGA's schedule is dogshit so they will pretty much be secured a spot in the SEC title game, at the least.
"Champions don’t do extraordinary things, they do the ordinary things better than anybody else" - Chuck Noll
Happy for him. But road games in South Bend, Madison, and AA, we need someone to step the hell up or pull a rabbit out of a hat from the portal.
Everyone keeps talking about hitting the portal. It hasn’t gone well thus far. Essentially not having NIL is gonna be hard to deal with. Not many college players worth a shit are gonna turn down money for the sake of “development”. The Syracuse safety is one. As of now they’re batting .100.
I didn't realize that there was no cash for transfers, is that accurate? With Stroud and the #1 WR leaving the program that should free up 4 million or so.
Sani
whats the 2 deep looking like next year?
Next year is going to be a rough. We've already missed a few top OL in the portal. Whoever is QB nest year will be running for his life.
I anticipate a HUGE drop off next year in the OL. Replacing Paris, a 5-star all-everything franchise left tackle, Dawand, a giant 6'8'' athletic right tackle, and Luke, a very solid multi-year starter who played his ass off on NYE-- that is NOT easy to do. We don't have replacements anywhere near their level. Not saying those guys can't be good. But we're not re-loading on the OL. We have not set the world on fire in OL recruiting, and we are coming up 0-fer in the portal. Justin Frye has a BIG ASS challenge ahead of him. With our tough as shit road schedule, McCord and Brown just gulped.
Would not surprise me if our offense struggled mightily.
BOATS and HOES.
'Next year is going to be a rough. We've already missed a few top OL in the portal. Whoever is QB nest year will be running for his life.
Didn't even have to look to know which dumbass posted this stupid shit.
Good luck to Luke.
Think offensive line replaces secondary as my biggest concern for next season. Who the hell is going to be the center? Lol. Going to have to come from the portal.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Next man up. Figure jackson and fryar will be fine as starters. Gotta have one of the young guys step up at center, guard and tackle.
Stay gold, Ponyboy.
Use the force, Luke. Best of luck in the League, and thanks for your time in Columbus.
UT oh that could leave a mark
Muck Fichigan
I hope this works out for him. It's really tough to make it in the NFL as a defensive tackle or interior offensive lineman after just three seasons in college, and there are only ever a few teams who have center as a high draft priority. I also wonder about the reputation of Ohio State right now, after so many of our recent guards and centers entering the NFL have underperformed their draft position.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Seems like MJ was only the second or so O-Lineman in OSU history to leave early(It was rare) and now it's a freaking parade.
Sani
The "brotherhood" ends as soon as the limo with the agent pulls into the parking lot. Paraphrasing Mack Brown when he was at Texas and Vince Young left before his senior year. Very little reason to get emotional about this. Most players come to OSU as a business decision and they leave for the same reason. It might explain why the commentary on this and many other forums has become increasingly caustic as college football officially becomes a minor league NFL farm system.
Poop
Tough to lose Luke, but he earned the chance to go to the league and I wish him all the best!
I don't think we even have a Center on our roster. The first time in a decade we haven't had a quality one waiting to take over. Corey Linsley, Jacoby Boren, Pat Elflein, Billy Price, Michael Jordan, Josh Myers, Luke Wypler, and ???? Are they sure Matthew Jones does not have another year of eligibility left? They need to double check that. He wants to take his extra year due to Covid next season as our Center. I'll fill out the paper work for him.
- Bobby Boucher is the best Foosball QB since Joe Mantegna -
Matt Jones was a top center coming out of high school and has a year of eligibility left. Also, Michael Jordan was a guard.
His Junior year and final season (2018-19), Michael Jordan started all 14 games at Center.
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2018/09/96133/michael...
- Bobby Boucher is the best Foosball QB since Joe Mantegna -
I stand corrected. I thought Josh Meyers took over after Price left.
The only reason I remember him playing Center was because every snap was an adventure. Haskins would have thrown for over 5,000 yds that season, if he wouldn't have had to worry about whether Jordan was going to snap the ball at his feet or over his head on every down.
- Bobby Boucher is the best Foosball QB since Joe Mantegna -
Most of them players became really good after they got here. Not all of them came in as centers or even as can’t miss players like every fan wants to have. That’s called development. With that long history of success why should we think it’ll just stop now?
Wypier was an untested rookie when he got his start on the OL. He matured into a fine player. Let's hope one of the guys waiting in the wings will progress in the same way.
Congrats. Go collect your millions, young man. Thankfully for you, OSU has done such a great job recruiting, they will just reload from tremendous depth. Next man up! With your schedule, your OL will have plenty of experience by the end of the season.
There are plenty waiting to get their shots. We have some nice talent coming in and a pretty good assortment of guys to fill in. OL recruiting is always a priority and certainly for the 24 class. We’ll definitely see how the development is going in the program this fall. 2nd and 3rd year guys.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
Ouch. Good for him though. Good luck Luke. You gave it your all and then some for us fans and your brothers.
Good luck Luke, we will miss you!
Ooooooo! Hoping he was staying…..he was a football player for sure
Hoping Jones stays, they shift him to center and the rest should structure pretty well yet as others are saying, we do NOT have the O-Line Titans we did even 3 years ago! That is a big problem!
I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk
We’ve got some serious size on the roster if that is what you are referring to. The two deep has 5 guys 6’6” or better. Most being decently rated 4 stars. I started looking @ the roster and we are not in bad shape at all imo.After Wypler declared and missing out on the portal tackles I started to get a little worried about OL. I’m really excited to see more of Royer @ TE and incoming freshman Jelani Thurman #2 TE in his class and is one of the early enrollees They look like real TE’s not converted LB’s.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
Best wishes to Luke as he pursues his dream. Well deserved, played his rear-end off. And showed out in the playoffs (along with the rest of the interior line) proving the over weight and over rated (and completely gassed) UGA DT could be handled.
Kids come to OSU with a goal in mind, making the NFL, and Luke assessed this to be his best opportunity. Will be rooting for him. Next man up, however unexpectedly.
We had to figure the offensive line and DBs were going to be a work in progress next year. Good luck to Luke in the NFL. Go get paid
When telling the truth becomes a revolutionary concept, it’s wise to join the revolution
Dad gum it
Oof. Makes our transfer portal whiffs sting a little more. Oh well, next man up!
"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes
Best wishes to Luke Wypler in the upcoming NFL draft. He's been a tremendous Buckeye and will be missed. Go Bucks!
Matt Jones to center, Vimahi to right guard, and Fryar to RT?
if Matt Jones leaves, oh boy…
Donovan Jackson to LT?
I’m far less optimistic about next year than I was earlier today.
You shouldn't be given the time we've got to see these three guys healthy, they balled out on the snaps they got to play this season. Now of course you want some experienced depth at LT, but Jackson was the #1 OG coming out, Jones will probably want a fully healthy season on tape and he was the #1 C in 2018 and that would raise his stock, Vimahi and Fryar were both good in spot duty and I think Jacobs was the guy they were all raving about during bowl practices?
Let's give the new blood a chance...the last time we had new blood that needed to gel was in 2014.
Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington
Not ideal, but this Spring’s transfer portal just picked up some additional urgency. That is, if the remaining OL personnel on the roster aren’t cutting it.
Time to figure shit out with transfer portal. We need some studs in here and quick. If not, next season could be ugly
Again, not ideal and the other thing with the transfer portal is, NIL seems to play a role. And by all accounts, OSU is still figuring out the NIL landscape.
People talking about next year being a 3-4 loss season is ridiculous. Could it happen, sure, but 1. we don’t even know what the roster will look like next year and 2. despite all the talent that’s leaving, outside of Georgia and possibly Michigan and Alabama, every other school would gladly trade rosters with OSU.
We’ll most likely pull a few players from the portal and we are absolutely loaded at the skill positions and our defense should be vastly improved.
Predicting CSH starts at one of the corner spots.
New QB, center, LT, and RT? :( :( :(
Yeah that's never happened before where a team has been successful replacing a QB, RT and LT. I mean how are we going to function, how does a team do this and be successful. /s
I sincerely wish him the best, and I'm confident the Buckeyes will fix any hole at this position, and for both of those reasons...
I wish he would've stayed one more year, that is, for his own good, but it looks like the dye has been cast.
Thing is, it's important to get off to a good start in the NFL, where first impressions tend to be lasting ones, whereby whenever a player isn't quite ready for primetime, he tends to get pigeonholed and might never have the same shot that he once had, on top of which, I'm also quite confident that if Wypler stayed around for another year, he'd be drafted far higher--and be paid far more money--than if he left early, whereby I'll be a bit surprised if he's more than a mid-to-late round pick. We'll see.
In other words, I'm just not confident this is the best decision for Luke's own good--quite the opposite--but just the same, I hope I'm wrong and he's right, and more importantly (i.e., for me, that is, as a fan of the Buckeyes and college football, which is a bigger priority for me than NFL prospects for individual players), I think the Buckeyes will be just fine.
Sure, they'll need to adapt, and there's always going to be some amount of discomfort that comes with change, but that's also the nature of college football... on steroids.
Between the portal and NIL (and even the looming impact of expanded playoffs, expanded coaching staffs, conference realignments, and the demise of virtually any meaningful NCAA rules and related enforcement), roster churn-and-burn and the related quality of a program's personnel/player management is bound to be a bigger issue than ever, which means that managing stability through change will be a bigger issue than ever.
To that end, IMHO, we've barely hit the tip of the iceberg, and over the course of the next decade or so, we should expect to see a number of programs rise and fall--even some of the biggest brand names--until the dust settles (if it ever does).
Inevitably, the big winners will be the programs who don't just mouth the words "next man up," but put structures and plans in place for replacing guys like Wypler ASAP vs spending much time lamenting their departures (whether or not said departures were smart decisions on the part of the player). So...
Good luck, Luke, and even more than that, good luck to Ryan Day, Justin Frye and Mark Pantoni.
I think it’s time to realize 2023 could be as much of a “rebuild” as we’ve seen since Meyer’s first year. It’s unrealistic to expect Ohio St to strike gold in the portal under even optimal conditions. And the Bucks aren’t typically geared towards building an entire unit on offense or defense from the portal. Usually a starter here or there, and some depth but as was mentioned, if Matt Jones goes, this is a complete rebuild. No reason to panic but just to understand maybe to lower the undefeated or even one loss talk for a bit
When telling the truth becomes a revolutionary concept, it’s wise to join the revolution
If we have a scrambling qb and change the play calling. We should be fine for big 10 play but playoff games I’m concerned
A rebuild season will cost Day his job.
11 Strong.
Everybody calm down. We will be back in the CFP. We’ve recruited great over past 4 years
I honeslty don’t know why you guys follow this stuff if it’s so painful for you.
Good luck to Wypler, you will be successful at the next level. You will be missed.
CBus love
New o line coach has them playing well so I’m giving him the chance to coach these other guys up. The spring portal window will have some guys that become “the next must get’s” and i see an addition or 2.
Fuckkkkk
Good luck Mr. Wypler! Always a Buckeye!
Go Bucks!
I really did not see that coming. Very disappointed, but if that is what he felt was best for him. In the long run, coming back another year might have resulted in a higher draft pick for him.
Bucks fans in Mass
Good luck sir...next year is going to be interesting. Breaking in a basically whole new line with a new QB. Buckle up Buckeye Fans!
Best of luck, but maaaaaaan this one sucks. I felt like if Wypler stayed, even if the OL is replacing both starting OTs and likely one OG I thought they could get it whipped into shape but now it appears the team will be breaking in 4 brand new OL-men. That's going to be a tough ask, coach Frye better be on the damn money.
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This is great for him, but awful for the oline for next year.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
Woody Hayes
Congrats to you Luke!! My Mom will miss her favorite neighbor!
DV3. OSU '80
This one hurts. I was hoping he would be back for another year. If they are replacing most of the line with a new QB than next year could be rough. At least by OSU standards. They have some decent players but other guys are going to need to step up fast.
He was a really good center. I just selfishly wish he stayed another year.
Luke did as a good a job as anyone at consistently stepping up his game to match and beat what the competition had in store for him. It's gonna be tough to replace him.
Had a feeling this was going to happen and this makes the offensive line room a little more shaky. We have no idea is Jakob Jones can fill the role and quite honestly I don’t think he can. There were so many misses during Studs time here. They better address it in the spring and get more bodies
He was a solid player, but my guess is he is 3-4 rounder at best. This hurts the depth for sure and if Jones leaves, we are in trouble.
1) Lots of first year starters on O-Line (They could band together and surprise us)
2) Green QB (Could be an immediate star, but who knows)
3) No reason to believe corners and safeties are going to be any better (at least not until The Game)
4) Injury prone RBs (Would love to be wrong on this)
My expectation for next season, is that we lose a couple times early or mid season, and then round into form in time for The Game. Beat Michigan, and follow that up by beating the crap out of whoever we get in our bowl game. I'm guessing that we won't win the conference or make the playoff, but by the end of the season we will be one of the best teams in the country, and we'll all have to deal with the frustration of knowing that we'll once again lose a bunch of our stars before 2024. It's all about timing folks. This was our year. We blew it.
"A man is always better than he thinks." -Woody Hayes-
Sorry, there is not reason for next years Bucks team to be a 9-3 team, none. With the skill positions and an O-Line that should be at least average and a defense that again, should be able to keep the team in most games, a 10-2 season would be the floor. And yes, "We" blew it this season and it hurts.
Sani
So many negative people in here. None of us know shit about next year's O-Line roster because nobody has really played. There have been comments by coaches about players needing to step up. Urban used to do this all the time because psychology and such. Sure we dont have some of the top tackle recruits that we would like but crying about it now without information is useless.
Find another hobby for a couple months and come back for spring practice updates and the spring game.
Because if Ohio State fans didn't find something to complain about and mask it as 'being realistic', then they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.
Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.
LOL - great post!!
Westashleybuckeye
This is a tough one but I'm happy for him. Besides being a great anchor in the middle of the line, he has a great tough nose attitude and that will be missed a lot....he plays with a chip on his shoulder and brings that attitude to the line.
"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM
I think freshman Luke Montgomery from Findlay Ohio will work his way into the starting OL rotation sooner than most think. This dude mauls people and does not stop. Very Athletic for his size as well. Watch his film from HS complete dominate player.
I live in Findlay and have heard all the pros and cons about him. I have never seen him play. Have been told about very quick feet but lacking strength at this point but works very hard. Was very disappointed to watch the highlight of him getting trucked by Keely in the all star game. Not a good look and showed lack of strength. I do not believe he had a real good showing in the game itself. That being said I think the Buckeye weight room will really benefit him and I see him a a future guard or maybe center and not tackle. How soon? Get him developed and maybe a couple of years.
Losing 1 out of 2 between Wypler and Jones isn't bad, I thought both would bolt.
Best of luck young man!