In his 6 years here, Holtmann has had plenty of talent to work with. The following guys who have been on his roster here are either currently in the NBA or previously played in the NBA.

Keita Bates-Diop, Jae'Sean Tate, Micah Potter (has played in handful of games the last 2 years), Duane Washington, EJ Liddell, Malaki Branham, and likely Sensabaugh this year.

Add in guys like Kaleb Wesson (playing in the Philippines), CJ Jackson (playing in Sweden), CJ Walker (playing in Germany), DJ Carton (in the G League), Kam Williams (who used to play in Denmark), Keyshawn Woods (has played in Europe for several years), Meechie Johnson who is starting and scoring 12.5 per game at S Carolina after sitting on the bench here, Jamari Wheeler (playing in Europe), Cedric Russell (playing in Serbia) after being unable to start here for some reason. 

plus solid role guys like Kyle Young, Andre Wesson and Justin Ahrens. Sueing and Key will likely play somewhere beyond OSU. Heck even Joey Brunk is playing in Poland.

IE he has had talent, But the results stay where they are..

"Half the problem with this team right now is confidence and not executing on offense with the same energy and purpose like they were earlier in the season"

Part of the reason this supposed execution looked better earlier in the year was due to playing a bunch of mediocre OOC teams

Robert Morris 8-12, Charleston Sou 8-12, E Ill 7-13, Texas Tech 10-8, St Francis 7-11, Maine 6-12, Bama A&M 6-12

Yes the UC win looks pretty good and Texas Tech is about the same as OSU ie 10-8, But neither they nor the losses to UNC, Duke or SDSU are against teams currently ranked. 

So we have a win over a decent but not great UC, a mediocre T Tech team, a decent NW team and a bad call win over Rutgers

I have been on of the folks who has been off the Holtmann band wagon for some time.

I do not expect national titles nor do I expect a B10 title every year.

That said, I do expect OSU to be far more often than not in the top of the B10 and to win a title here and there and maybe a couple Sweet 16 runs in a decade

To that end Holtmann has failed

Starting with the collapse down the stretch of his first year when he went 2-2 to finish the regular season, his record against B10 teams is 47-44 or barely .500 in his last 91 conference regular season games. Matta in his last 91 regular season conference games was 53-38, Won  B10 regular season title, won a conference tourney title, went to a Final 4 and an Elite 8

Even in Matta's last 3 years as it started to fall apart he went 29-25 in conference or 4 games over .500 while Holtmann's in just 3 games over in his last 91 games.

He is not a terrible coach. But we are paying him what is equal to the 2nd highest contract in the conference to get 5th-8th place finishes

I went back to every year in which we completed at least 150 passes since Bruce was hired and looked at what Receivers had the highest percentage of all receptions ie if they caught 60 passes and we completed a total of 200, then they caught 30% of all completions

To that end 30% or more has happened only 12 times.

1 - Chris Carter 1986 - 39.2%

2 - Philly Brown 2012 - 37.3%

3 - Michael Jenkins 2002 - 35.3%

4 - Devier Posey 2009 - 34.5%

5 - David Boston 1998 - 34.4%

6 - Santonio Holmes 2004 - 33.1%

7 - David Boston 1997 - 32.9%

8 - Brain Stablein 1992 - 32.5%

9 - Chris Olave 2020 -31.6%

10 - Chris Carter 1985 - 31.4%

11 - Joey Galloway 1993 -30.5%

12 - Ken Yon Rambo 2000 - 30.5%

Some recent examples

2022 - Harrison 28.1

2021 - Njigba 27.2

2019 - Hill 21.0

2018 - Campbell 23.3

2016 - Samuel 29.0

2015 - Thomas 27.6

The lowest single season for the team leader in percent of total receptions?

2017 - KJ Hill at 19.5%

I know this guy got Illinois turned around defensively but his MIzzou Defense were for the most part mediocre to bad with only 1 ranking in the top 50. 

But part of his success this year was due to Illinois playing a ton of terrible offenses, so exactly how good is this guy?

in terms of scoring O, here is what they faced

Wyoming - 112th

Indiana - 99th

Virginia - 126th

FCS Chattanooga who ranked 44th in FCS

Wisconsin - 78th

Iowa - 122nd

Minn - 68th

Nebr - 103rd

MSU - 91st

Purd - 70th

UM - 7th

NW - 128th

As noted, Homles didnt play a single snap in '02 as he red shirted

Also as noted Mangold was a back up used almost exclusively in mop up duty

Gamble never took a snap in the NFL as a receiver but was a major asset in our weak offense that year.

The O Line was solid as 3 guys went to the NFL, Jenkins was a quality WR, Krenzel was a solid game manager and more mobile than we recall running for over 360 yards and 3 scores that year.

We were loaded in defense and our kicker and punter were great, but offense was easily the weakest link on that team with only Jenkins, Hartsock and couple O Line guys rising above average (except Clarett)

Bama was a 7 point favorite when we played them in the Sugar Bowl as 4 seed in 2014 season playoffs.

Miami was an 11.5 point favorite back in the '02 season

6.5 pts to me seems to be giving us more respect than you might think.

OSU has a ton of talent but has come glaring flaws (CB play and inconsistent run game most obviously), who plays wildly inconsistent.

2.2 Yards per carry vs Iowa, 3.8 vs PSU, 4.1 vs ND, 3.7 vs MD

371 pass yards allowed to PSU, 318 to MD and 278 to UM

Can we win? Sure,,, Will we win? If being honest I would make UGA the favorite and probabaly by more than 6.5.

If you assume that playing in their own back yard is a de facto home game and hence worth at least 3 point advantage, then on a truly neutral fields the odds makers are saying this is a 3.5 point margin.

Heck I would make UGA a 3.5 point favorite if OSU was playing at Home...

To me our defense is the biggest concern still. We have played 2 offense ranked in the top 20 (UM at 7 and PSU at 19), we allowed an average of 38 points in those 2 games, an average of 506 yards per game. UGA is 11th in scoring Offense, so unless they simply have a bad day, or we figure something out in the 4 weeks off, I expect UGA to score 5 TDs on us. So it we then matter which version of the OSU offense shows up and can we win in a track meet like last years Rose Bowl.

I have been telling people I think we have about a 25% chance to win, a 25% chance to lose close (>14 pts) and 50% chance of losing badly (<14)

I am generally not in favor of watering down FBS by adding these schools

Stephen F Austin as an example has lost 21 straight games vs FBS teams including loses to Texas St, La tech, Tex San Antonio, SMU, Tulsa and FIU, ie not all are exactly powerhouses

of those 21 losses, 14 of them have been by 21 or more, ie they are simply non-competitive at this level.

These schools are not even top FCS schools. This is not the same as say NDST or Sam Houston or James Madison who recently moved up who played near the top of the FCS. Only 4 of these programs are over .500 all time at this level or lower as some of them were D2 schools until fairly recently.

The last time any of these schools played for an FCS Title was 1989 when Stephen F Austin lost to Georgia Southern, thats 33 years ago. Before that you have to back 41 years ago to E Kentucky losing to Bose St and Idaho St in back to back years. 

As others have said there are already too many teams in the FBS.

I would be in favor of forcing the following schools to drop down

U Mass, Charlotte, NM St, UNLV, Texas St, La Monroe, FIU, UTEP, that's 8 schools who are under 35% winning percentage since 2000 in the FBS who all play in lower conferences or as Independents who simply cant compete and likely never will. why add a handful more who will just be as terrible as these if not worse.

A little more depth on Keenan's experience

He was an Undergraduate asst at Missouri as his first job as he started his education there. This was under Gary Pinkell. Josh Henson, the OC at USC now was the OC back then assuming he worked on the Offensive side of the ball and Alex Grinch was on that staff as well, this was in 2013

He then went to ND and was a recruiting analyst for 2 years under Kelly. The head of recruiting at ND his first year there was current OSU RB coach Tony Alford. Alford would come to OSU the next year. 

The next year the recruiting Coord at ND was Mike Elston, the current DL coach at UM

Came here is 2016 first helping coach RB with Alford, then WR first under Zach Smith, then Hartline the next year, Later moved to QB with Qbs first under Mike Yurcich (now PSU's OC), and then Cory Dennis

The OP said - "Following the “great win,” Coop's teams were 0–8–1 against Michigan and bowl opponents."

Not True.

Note you said "AFTER" the great win ie the 1992 tie.

After that game Cooper went 5-11 against UM and Bowls, not 0-8-1

1992 - lost to UGA 0-1

1993 - Lost to UM beat BYU 1-1

1994 - Beat UM lost to Bama 1-1

1995 - Lost to UM and Tenn 0-2

1996 - Lost to UM beat Arizona St 1-1

1997 - Lost to UM and FSU 0-2

1998 - Beat UM and A&M 2-0

1999 - Lost to UM no bowl 0-1

2000 - Lost to UM and S. Carolina 0-2

He was 0-7 at OSU "Prior" to the "great win" though, so that overall in his 13 years here he was 5-18-1 against UM and in bowls, (24 games as he failed to make a bowl twice)

"Ohio State’s most productive receiving tight end since 2013".

In terms of percent of all receptions, Stover was 13.9% this year, and was the most since Hartsock in 2003 at 15.9%

In fact since Cooper became the HC, and we moved away from using the TE so heavily under Woody and Bruce, the highest TE receptions as a percent of all receptions are as follows:

1 - 1993 - Cedric Saunders 17.5%

2 - 1992 - Cedric Saunders 17.2%

3 - 1995 - Rickey Dudley 16.2%

4 - 2003 Ben Hartsock 15.9%

5 - 2022 Cade Stover 13.9%

6 - 2000 Darnell Sanders 13.2%

7 - 2011 Jake Stoneburner 11.2%

8 - 2013 Jeff Heuermann 10.9%

9 - 2001 Ben Hartsock 10.2%

10 - Tie 1994 D.J. Jones and 2012 Jake Stoneburner 9.9% 

20% chance we win, 30% chance we lose by less than 14, and 50% chance we lose by more than 2 TDs

I hope I am wrong, but if I had to guess it will be something like 49-28 with us on the wrong end

The reality is that Texas was better with him than without him

He was there 4 years and won 64% of his games and 63% in conference

in the 4 years before he got there, they won 48% of their games and 50% in conference

In the last 2 years they have won 54% overall and 50% in conference, In Herman's first 2 years after inheriting the mess left by Strong he won 63% overall and 67% in conference.

Sarkisian was not left with the same mess Herman got and the program has performed worse.

Herman's last 2 years he won 65% vs Sarks 54% and won 59% in conference vs Sarks 50%

Was he a great coach there nah probably not, was he better than Strong, yes by a wide margin, Sarkisian is still TBD, but so far Herman did a better job

Brohm inherited a program ruined by a former OSU asst in Darrell Hazell who went 6-33 against FBS teams at Purdue in his 3.5 season before being fired

Brohm was 16-9 over the last 2 years vs FBS teams and 12-6 in conference which includes 7 wins over ranked teams

Here is what CBS Sports had to say about hiring Beck.

"This is Beck's first crack as a head coach, and he is taking over a Chanticleers program that established a tradition of offensive success under Chadwell. None of Beck's three Wolfpack offenses finished in the top half of the ACC, and two of this three offenses at Texas finished in the bottom half of the Big 12. This hire doesn't make any sense. Grade: F"

Joe Moglia is the AD at Coastal. Technically he is the "chair of athletics/executive director for football/executive adviser for the president".

He is a fairly wealthy guy (former Chairman of TD Ameritrade among other companies) who once was an Asst at Nebraska when Beck was there.

Moglia was also the HC for Coastal from 2012-2016, then took a 1 year leave of absence and then back to HC in 2018. His record was 56-22.

He was made Chair of Athletics, etc while still the HC. He then made a large contribution to the school in 2021 and the athletic center is being named after him in part due to this.

Here is Moglia's quote about Beck: “I have known Tim since my return to coaching 13 years ago at Nebraska. He is an excellent coach and coordinator, and has always had the best interest of his players, coaches, and school at heart,”

IE him and Beck are buddies and the money guy said this is who I want. 

There were news articles in NC papers asking if Beck should be fired with how mediocre the NCST offense and play caller were (sound familiar?)

Beck's daughter also played Volleyball at the school.

Nebraska fans certainly shed no tears when this guy left for OSU. OSU fans have no love for him, Texas couldn't wait to be rid of him and NCST fans think he was mediocre as well.

This reeks of good ole boy network hire.

BTW CBS sports gave the Satterfield hire by UC a C-

Great season so far ladies, keep up the good work!!!

Sorry 1 more thing, Liberty is moving to CUSA Next year so definitively a step up from Sun Belt

Another curious hire, UC picks Lousiville's Scott Satterfield as their new coach.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35187740/sources-cincinnati-tabs-scott-satterfield-replace-luke-fickell

Who knows if this works out for them But Satterfield was 8-5 his first year there but has gone 16-19 in his last 35 games and 11-15 in the ACC, hardly what appears to be a step up for them.

Add to that Louisville is scheduled to play UC in their bowl and this is quite odd

Another thing to consider is Liberty plays in a bigger stadium, draws nearly 4K more people per game even though the ticket price is nearly $20 a ticket higher for Liberty than Coastal. 

21K per game vs 17K

45-50 avg ticket price vs 25ish for Coastal

That's nearly $6 million in ticket sales for Liberty vs about $2.6 million for Coastal.

Liberty has plans to expand that stadium again soon to take it up to 30K vs Coastal's at 21K

Overall per public records Liberty brings in 50% more revenue from football than Coastal does and hence has a bigger stadium, larger HC and Asst pool and better overall facilities

Liberty is going to pay Chadwell nearly 4 times as much as he was making at Coastal

Just over $1 million a year base at Coastal up to now over $4 million at Liberty.

Fairly simple decision really.

Essentially this is bout the same as moving from Toledo to Memphis. Sun Belt is roughly equal to the MAC, ie bottom of the FCS barrel and Liberty is nearly on par with Memphis and AAC team with a bigger stadium and budget,, and hence much higher pay

Buckeye06,

I think  your post actually makes my point

IN the first half we ran the ball for 124 yards compared to UM's 10 and we lead 20-17

IN the 2nd half UM out rushed us 242 to our 21 and they out scored us 28-3

We ran the ball 43% of play calls in the first half, in the 3rd and early 4th quarters before it got out of hand we ran the ball only 4 out of 17 play calls or just 23.5% of calls and fell behind by 11 then 8, sure after the long runs at 7 minutes and less we had to pass, but even before then Day had been moving away from the run the entire game even though it was still close.

Runs account for 11 of our first 20 plays and we led 10-3, or 55% of plays,

then only 18 of our last 57 plays or just 32% of the rest and went down each quarter

1st quarter was 11 of 21 were runs or 52%

2nd quarter 9 of 25 or 36%

3rd and early 4th quarter were quarter was 8 of 18 or only 44% even though we only went down by 11 in the early 4th and 4 of those 8 runs were in the 1st possession of the 2nd half (4 of 5 plays after which we were 4 of the next 13 or 31%

Stroud is not perfect but he is far from the problem on this team

The weaknesses have been glaring for anyone willing to look

DB play especially at the corners and inconsistent run game

The DB play may improve if Knowles is given more time, but the run game issue is more systemic to who Ryan Day and his offense is

Here are the rush yards per game each year Day has been here and our national rank, with the starting QB listed beside them and finally YPC

2022 - 198.5 - 27th - Stroud - 5.49

2021 - 180.6 - 47th - Stroud - 5.55

2020 - 250.9 - 8th - Fields - 5.96

2019 - 266.8 - 5th - Fields - 5.63

2018 - 171.3 - 63rd - Haskins - 4.21

2017 - 243.2 - 17th - Barrett - 5.78

So with a real run threat at QB - 253.6 per game, avg rank of 10th and 5.79 per carry

With no real run threat at QB - 183.5 per game, avg rank of 47th and 5.08 per carry

Thats 28% less yards per game, about 37 places lower in national rank and 12% lower in YPC

There are 6 years here with at least 1 more game to go this year. 

Prior to his arrival OSU never had a season below 220 yards rushing per game under Meyer and often were well above 250

Under Day we have been below 200 - 3 times in 6 years

That is something systematic and given his preference of not recruiting a dual threat type guy, something is fundamentally broken there and needs fixed or this could be an ongoing concern with potentially losses to follow

I dont like 12 teams because i hate playoff byes

That said if the playoff were based on the rankings today 12/1/22, these would be your matchups

UGA, UM, TCU and USC would get byes

OSU would play 10-2 Washington

Bama would play 9-3 Utah

Tenn would play 9-3 Kansas St

and PSU would play Clemson

Now it wont actually play out that way as KSU and Utah per chalk will lose to TCU and USC respectively.

If that were to hold true then perhaps 9-3 FSU moves up and 9-3 Oregon St

in the 2013 budget, Gifts and donations to the university is slated to be 166 million dollars vs a total budget of 8.8 Billion dollars, ie gifts make up less than 2% of the budget